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What happened to ICC and IRL?

Discussion in 'Industry News' started by CodeWarrior, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. CodeWarrior

    CodeWarrior Registered User

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    For the last year or may be longer, there was a big announcement about ICC-ES and the NAHB Home Innovation Research Lab or IRL forming a syndicate for product certification and testing. ICC-ES added IRL to their logo, to perhaps signify the strength of the syndicate.

    This was an attempt to represent a smooth transition from testing to certification. Or it seems things were not so smooth. ICC-ES dropped IRL from their logo and scrubbed IRL from their website.

    I feel sorry for manufacturers that went to IRL and now wonder if the testing will be accepted. Who knows what will happen next?
     
  2. cda

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  3. CodeWarrior

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    I guess these two parties ought to talk to each other. It seems each are sending out different messages.
     
  4. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    Is it not possible that an organization like the NAHB having a testing lab is sort of like the fox watching the hen house? Similar to the egg industry providing a study telling us that cholesterol does not cause blockage of arteries? It is self-serving.
     
  5. steveray

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    Kind of like industry folks writing code or lobbyists in government....
     
  6. CodeWarrior

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    I have news for you. NAHB regularly writes code for ICC and their reps sit on most of the code committees acting as a gatekeeper for the code proposals.

    So, it wasn’t a big surprise when ICC hooked up with the NAHB test lab. More surprising is that ICC suddenly severed what seemed to be a cozy relationship.......
     
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    They got blasted in the NYT I believe for being in bed with the HB.....Maybe they decided to back off a step....
     
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    The Times article was interesting but I think a little off base. While I think ICC could have been a little more above board I think the assertion that the NAHB has an unfair influence is a little over-stated. At the code hearings the NAHB rebuttals were predictable, but I think they offer at least some balance. I think the process needs somebody in opposition, if not to at least encourage critical thinking and debate. IMHO the energy lobby exerts a lot of influence as well, and maybe needs a balancing force.

    My three litmus tests for a code: Does it cost more to build? Does it apply broadly to the industry? Is it clear and concise (enforceable)? Not answering these questions to my satisfaction doesn't mean a yea or nay, but they are the base from which I base my opinion.

    Now I will duck.
     
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