jar546
Forum Coordinator
You have the flat washer and the famous Meyers hub used with PVC. Which one would be a compliant installation (assuming the connector was fully seated in the Meyers hub.
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Which Fitting-Connection is Code Compliant?
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fatboy
Administrator
Left, I have never seen the installation on the right.
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
Why wouldn't the right one be right if it is listed?
fatboy
Administrator
Due to the nature of the question, my assumption (I know), one was compliant, the other not.
chris kennedy
Sawhorse
The one on the right is compliant. That’s a sealing ring.
The one one the left is a violation of 110.3(B). Meyers hubs are only listed for use with RMC and IMC.
What do I win?
The one one the left is a violation of 110.3(B). Meyers hubs are only listed for use with RMC and IMC.
What do I win?
jar546
Forum Coordinator
About time you put your 2 cents in. You have officially won an "ataboy" from Joe. Go see him after work. Congrats.
fatboy
Administrator
Well......crap.
ICE
Oh Well
It seems to me that a metal flat washer in contact with the metal can is not water tight.
chris kennedy
Sawhorse
The green rubber is on both sides.
ICE
Oh Well
I can see the rubber on top.....why don’t I see the rubber underneath the washer? Sorry but it doesn’t resemble a sealing ring.
This really looks like a a generic flat washer with a rubber washer on top.... it’s Jeff’s picture so I’ll take his word for it but I’ve not seen one like this.
This is a picture that I took three days ago. The worker insisted that the fitting is raintight. I had him back off the lock ring and sure enough there's a gasket. It fits into the knockout perfectly and accomplished nothing. Had it been visible after installation it would have still not worked.
This is a sealing ring:
This is the rubber washer similar to the one in my picture:
I guess I'm just not convinced that Jeff's picture is a sealing ring.
This really looks like a a generic flat washer with a rubber washer on top.... it’s Jeff’s picture so I’ll take his word for it but I’ve not seen one like this.
This is a picture that I took three days ago. The worker insisted that the fitting is raintight. I had him back off the lock ring and sure enough there's a gasket. It fits into the knockout perfectly and accomplished nothing. Had it been visible after installation it would have still not worked.
This is a sealing ring:
This is the rubber washer similar to the one in my picture:
I guess I'm just not convinced that Jeff's picture is a sealing ring.
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chris kennedy
Sawhorse
That ring came from my shop when Jeff was working with us.
I can assure you it’s a listed sealing ring with rubber on both sides.
Just a different manufacturer than the one in your pic.
I can assure you it’s a listed sealing ring with rubber on both sides.
Just a different manufacturer than the one in your pic.
ICE
Oh Well
Well then, you I can trust.....but hold on.....Jeff called it a flat washer and you knew it was a sealing ring that doesn't look like a sealing ring....that's insider information.
Well alrighty then, it's game on Jeff
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chris kennedy
Sawhorse
Oh no, no more cahoots.
Now he is an inspector and I’m still an installer.
Can’t wait to work in his area so we can go toe to toe!
Now he is an inspector and I’m still an installer.
Can’t wait to work in his area so we can go toe to toe!
jar546
Forum Coordinator
jar546
Forum Coordinator
Isn't this what was used in your photo?
jar546
Forum Coordinator
Besides Ice, it appears as though those penetrations were below the level of live parts anyway so no sealing needed.
ICE
Oh Well
That is a possibility. It makes better sense than a lock ring and a gasket. Is this yellow gasket meant to fit inside the KO hole and the metal is meant to bite in and act as a lock ring? When I first saw it I thought that it will not repel water. I could see a gap between the minute bit of rubber that I could see and the can so I assumed that it was no good. If I was wrong, I'm happy to give them a call and take back the correction. I'll just tell them that you started it.Isn't this what was used in your photo?
Ya ...no...there was a gap
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ICE
Oh Well
That is incorrect. I'll look for another picture.
jar546
Forum Coordinator
I clicked on your picture and zoomed in. On the pic it looks like the sealing locknut and a sealing ring. If there was a gap all they needed to do was to tighten it. BTW, the locking nut is sometimes just on the inside. It only needs to be sealed from one side.
On another note, I will repeat, it does not appear as though the penetration is above the level of live parts.