Any opinion on the white door on white wall????
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white on white
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fatboy
Administrator
Re: white on white
I'd buy it........not thrilled about it, but.............. :roll:
I'd buy it........not thrilled about it, but.............. :roll:
brat
Bronze Member
Re: white on white
It appears to be fairly easily distiguishable; not perfect but......................
It appears to be fairly easily distiguishable; not perfect but......................
JBI
REGISTERED
Re: white on white
Codes don't regulate taste, doors aren't required to be a different color than the wall.
I just want to know where they found a white push bar?
Codes don't regulate taste, doors aren't required to be a different color than the wall.
I just want to know where they found a white push bar?
fatboy
Administrator
Re: white on white
Well John, not arguing that the door shown is not acceptable, but the code does go there;
"Means of egress doors shall be readily distinguishable from the adjacent construction and finishes such that the doors are easily recognizable as doors."
As I stated, I would accept the door shown, the exit sign and hardware help the fact that it is the same color as the wall. And no, I've not seen white panic hardware before, I imagine you could paint it any color, but not getting the paint in the wrong places would be the trick, and I wonder if it would void any warranties?
Well John, not arguing that the door shown is not acceptable, but the code does go there;
"Means of egress doors shall be readily distinguishable from the adjacent construction and finishes such that the doors are easily recognizable as doors."
As I stated, I would accept the door shown, the exit sign and hardware help the fact that it is the same color as the wall. And no, I've not seen white panic hardware before, I imagine you could paint it any color, but not getting the paint in the wrong places would be the trick, and I wonder if it would void any warranties?
Guest
Re: white on white
It looks all white to me but then I'm just a waskelly wabbit.
It looks all white to me but then I'm just a waskelly wabbit.
Builder Bob
SAWHORSE
Re: white on white
"readily distinguishable from the adjacent construction and finishes such that the"
The intent of the code is so that doors are readily distinguishable from the rest of the construction. In a Smokey environment for FF's, this door would be hard to see if the Kimeesee hits the fan.
Don't forget people who are color blind, tunnel versioned, or other ailment that would allow them to perceive this as a door/doorway.
I would allow this to go to the board of appeals as IMHO don't think this meets codes -
"readily distinguishable from the adjacent construction and finishes such that the"
The intent of the code is so that doors are readily distinguishable from the rest of the construction. In a Smokey environment for FF's, this door would be hard to see if the Kimeesee hits the fan.
Don't forget people who are color blind, tunnel versioned, or other ailment that would allow them to perceive this as a door/doorway.
I would allow this to go to the board of appeals as IMHO don't think this meets codes -
LGreene
REGISTERED
Re: white on white
Thank you everyone for your feedback about the white panic on a white door in a white wall. And thanks CDA for asking this group.
The panic is a Von Duprin Inpact device, which is recessed in the door. It is available in almost 200 colors, as are some of the other Von Duprin panics. It's a powder-coat finish, applied at the factory.
I can't control the wall color, but the feedback about the panic/door color match is very helpful, since it's not specifically addressed in any code that I know of. It comes down to each individual's definition of "readily distinguishable."
Here's where I originally posted the photo: http://www.ihatehardware.com/?p=2429
Thank you everyone for your feedback about the white panic on a white door in a white wall. And thanks CDA for asking this group.
The panic is a Von Duprin Inpact device, which is recessed in the door. It is available in almost 200 colors, as are some of the other Von Duprin panics. It's a powder-coat finish, applied at the factory.
I can't control the wall color, but the feedback about the panic/door color match is very helpful, since it's not specifically addressed in any code that I know of. It comes down to each individual's definition of "readily distinguishable."
Here's where I originally posted the photo: http://www.ihatehardware.com/?p=2429
Frank
REGISTERED
Re: white on white
Looks ok to me can tell it is a door--now if was flush with wall could be different story.
Looks ok to me can tell it is a door--now if was flush with wall could be different story.
RLM-Architect
Bronze Member
Re: white on white
Explanations that are in the Life Safety Code relate to doors that for instance may be covered with a mirror or, for instance, in a mercantile sales floor where the door is covered with the same material that they hang the shelving displays on.
Agree that there is not a lot of contract here but the code does not cite contrast.
As far as the blind (excuse me "vision impaired") occupant, that is the purpose of the tactile exit sign adjacent to the door above the alarm pull station.
OOPS, Another violation, no Braille on the Exit Stair Sign (unless that is white on white Braille.
Anyway, at least the door opens in the direction of egress. And that IS one really interesting frame.
At least the EXIT sign is in the right place.
:geek:
Explanations that are in the Life Safety Code relate to doors that for instance may be covered with a mirror or, for instance, in a mercantile sales floor where the door is covered with the same material that they hang the shelving displays on.
Agree that there is not a lot of contract here but the code does not cite contrast.
As far as the blind (excuse me "vision impaired") occupant, that is the purpose of the tactile exit sign adjacent to the door above the alarm pull station.
OOPS, Another violation, no Braille on the Exit Stair Sign (unless that is white on white Braille.
Anyway, at least the door opens in the direction of egress. And that IS one really interesting frame.
At least the EXIT sign is in the right place.
:geek: