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Building collapse// concert fire // History repeats, repeats, repeats

The property owner should be the one to suffer the consequences brought on by the government when dealing with illegal occupancy of a property. The problems start with the owner allowing the illegal occupancy and that's where the problems should end.

According to the media the owner of the Ghost Ship was collecting $4500.00 a month in rent. Had the City whispered into his hooped ear, "This could cost you $100,000.00 just in relocation costs when we shut you down", he may have reconsidered.
 
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exactly, this will be news all over the country - and it will be brought against the fire and code people as being the bullies. The comments on the article show the range of community concerns.

I will bet that if research was conducted the owners of the Oakland property also owned others as well (and probably rent them out similarly). The "investors" find a way to keep their property taxes paid while they wait for the redevelopment opportunity.

I think as others have said that the owners and the lease holder should be held financially and criminally accountable.

The one thing building codes, zoning codes and other regulations can NOT do is fix stupid.
 
CDA's MSN link said:
"Right now we are looking through our records," Fire Chief Teresa Deloach Reed told CNN on Thursday. "I can't tell you anything right now about that warehouse."

Prior to the chief's statement, a source in city government said Thursday that the 31st Avenue address was not listed in the fire department's database of buildings requiring inspections. Thirty-six people died in the structure while attending an electronic dance party last weekend.

"I can't answer how that warehouse slipped through the cracks and that it bypassed our system -- or how it bypassed the city's system," Reed told the news network. "But everybody is at the table right now trying to figure out what happened."

Oh really, it was located a few yards from an Oakland firehouse,

East Bay Times said:
We’re told a firefighter briefly entered the building in 2014 and reported to fire inspectors that there appeared to be hazards there. Members of the Fire Department and code enforcement also visited the site, as did an Alameda County Sheriff’s deputy and members of Child Protective Services. We don’t know what most of them saw.

Meanwhile, the warehouse, just one block away from a fire station, remained inhabited. It was a fire trap that lacked permits for staging of events like last week’s deadly concert and for the ongoing residential occupancy.¹

¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...ass-for-missing-ghost-ship-warehouse-dangers/
 
After deadly Oakland fire, Southern California artist building is red-tagged
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/...ern-california-artist-building-is-red-tagged/
SANTA ANA – Code enforcement, fire and building safety officials emerged from a Tuesday morning walk-through of the Advertising Arts Building housing artist studios – the third inspection within the past week – and red-tagged the basement with “Do not enter” signs citing substandard conditions.

“We did find violations that make it a life-safety concern,” Alvaro Nuñez, who oversees Santa Ana’s code enforcement division, said after the more than two-hour inspection.

Authorities observed “many violations,” Nuñez said, in the building behind a barbed wire fence on East First Street that is accessible only from a parallel cul-de-sac. He said there was “evidence of some folks living there” – beds, futons, refrigerators, a stove and laundry machines, among other appliances, and food materials.

Further details were not disclosed and the inspection report was not immediately available.

Nuñez said he is not sure if artists occupying the building will need to move out.

Code enforcement officers were on site Thursday and Friday responding to a complaint filed with the city days after a fire claimed 36 lives at the Ghost Ship art colony in Oakland. In Orange County, like the Bay Area, municipalities face balancing safety with allowing industrial and other aging structures to be used by people who can’t afford high rents.

The two-story, wood-and-brick Arts Advertising Building is zoned for industrial and manufacturing uses and is permitted to hold artist workspaces, but not residences.

Inspectors last week could not enter individual units – about 30 – on the first and second floors and posted notices of improper occupancy.

But painter and performance artist Arthur Mendoza, 55, who lives in Fullerton and has worked at the building for more than five years, said artists are only working there.

“When we all signed up, that was part of the agreement,” Mendoza said of the nonresidential lease terms. “I feel safe here. I’ve never worried about the people or anything, or the building, and I’m glad that they are inspecting.”

Property manager Andrew Hart cooperated with authorities, and prior to the walk-through said the building has a full sprinkler system and he’s installed additional fire safety precautions since the Ghost Ship fire.

“We do month-to-month. I put, ‘artist studio,’ so if they are (living there), then they’re violating the lease,” he said, showing Nuñez a copy of the document.

Hart did not allow media to shadow inspectors and did not return calls for comment afterward.

Nuñez said having the property manager present was a “good, good start” and that Hart indicated he is willing to address the violations, most of which can be repaired.

“It worked the way it’s supposed to work. We contacted building safety, Orange County Fire Authority, so it’s actually a good thing,” Nuñez said. “The key thing is, hopefully we won’t have a situation like Oakland.”

A complete inspection report and correction notice will be mailed to the property manager detailing any electrical or mechanical changes required and a compliance timeline, he said. The first violation following notification would generate a $1,000 fine, followed by fines of $2,500 and $5,000 for successive violations..

In the past three years, Santa Ana has changed its municipal code to permit higher fines for code violations and in serious cases, cutting off utilities.

Authorities in Oakland have not yet determined the cause of the Ghost Ship fire, but are looking at the electrical system as part of the analysis.

Mendoza said he had visited the Ghost Ship a couple of times.

“It frightened me,” he said. “But that’s really what it boils down to – affordable housing.”

Contact the writer: 714-796-7762 or jkwong@ocregister.com Twitter: @JessicaGKwong
 
Now this is a good idea, the "artists' community" is going to do it's own "inspections" and repairs so they don't incur the high costs of city inspectors and licensed bondable contractors, what could possibly go wrong?
East Bay Times said:
OAKLAND — The artists community in Oakland is not waiting for anyone’s help in the wake of the Ghost Ship warehouse fire, which claimed the lives of 36 people. They are fighting evictions, making safety improvements to industrial spaces and advocating for the preservation of safe, affordable places for artists to live and work.

Last Wednesday, an estimated 200 people filled the Omni Commons, a community event space in Oakland’s Temescal neighborhood, to coordinate efforts and offer help making repairs and renovations to live/work warehouses to make them safer, said David Keenan, a founding member of the Omni and one of the organizers of the event, which is now calling itself the DIY Safety Group.

The group was quickly split into several working groups, including people who have construction skills, experience with code enforcement, finance and fundraising, communications and legal assistance, Keenan said. Already, he and others with experience in building and fire codes have gone out to do “pre-inspections” of buildings to make sure fire hazards are reduced, interior bedrooms or other structures are built safely, exit signs and fire extinguishers are in place, and exits are clear.

Then, on Monday, another coalition of artists, established organizations, community leaders and activists announced the formation of We the Artists of the Bay Area (WABA), which is already beginning to petition city leaders to establish a path to legalize nonconforming live/work spaces, said Jon Sarriugarte, one of the group’s members. Like the DIY Safety Group, WABA is also bringing in people with building and fire code knowledge to make improvements inside warehouses where artists live and work, and to fight evictions.

“We’re making sure we’re all safe to start with, then making sure our communities can help bring these spaces into compliance,” Sarriugarte said. “In other words, we don’t want to bring these up to compliance just to see the very people we’re helping priced out.”

By Friday, a volunteer from the Omni group was already inspecting one live/work space in West Oakland, said a warehouse resident, who requested anonymity. The unofficial inspection took roughly two and a half hours, while residents gave the volunteer a tour and pointed out wiring and bedroom spaces they were worried might not be up to snuff.

“We would point out things and ask questions, like ‘Does this look dangerous, does it look old, does it need to be updated?'” she said.

Another inspector, who connected with residents through friends, came to the same location Sunday, and both volunteer inspectors concurred the group could achieve the fixes relatively quickly, the resident said. She estimates they will be done with their work by the end of the week.

“Our building was surprisingly well-maintained and really structurally solid,” she said. “Honestly, we weren’t that surprised because … a lot of us are very skilled carpenters, so we (already) felt we weren’t living in an unsafe space.”

But several artists said they fear that making these upgrades could increase the value of the property for either sale or rentals and that they might be pushed out. Preserving the spaces as affordable housing or work spaces will take the cooperation of not just the city, but property owners as well, Sarriugarte said, and it may involve forming a nonprofit or other associations to buy the building itself.

“Some of the landlords are, obviously, scared and maybe this a good time for them to get them out of the business,” Sarriugarte said. “It’s pretty clear the city and the people of this city and the Bay Area really care about these spaces and really care about these people.”¹

I can tell you that the "Omni Collective" is a group of loosely described "anti-capitalists" that formed after the Occupy movement, they somehow acquired a vacant Italian American social club and were petitioning the City of Oakland to wave fire sprinkler, seismic, and disability requirements so they could occupy and renovate the structure while living and working there. Being socialists they firmly believe that the laws that apply to "rich people" shouldn't apply to them since they don't have any money. What could go wrong?


¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...-together-to-stem-evictions-make-spaces-safe/
 
Tony Serra is representing the guy who had the lease on the property, Tony was a buddy of mine in college, we were both pre-law students which meant that your could go into law school a year early, after the LSAT tests none of us were accepted but told to declare a major and we would be accepted the following year, Tony and I decided to declare philosophy, after graduation I got married and Tony took off to tour Europe for a few years, when he returned he enrolled in Boalt school of law at U.C. Berkeley, I hadn't heard from him in years but sometime in the 70s the wife called me to her television where Morley Safer on 60 Minutes was doing a segment on Tony claiming he was the best attorney in the country, that he could bring any jury to tears and he beat the government every time he went against them. He's been to prison three times for income tax evasion, the last time during the sentencing hearing the DA pleaded with the judge to not to send him back to prison, but to sentence him to training young lawyers in the DA's office since he wasn't a threat to harm anyone, the judge didn't buy it and sent him back to prison.

East Bay Times said:
OAKLAND — The attorneys representing Ghost Ship leader Derick Almena went on the offensive Monday, releasing a statement blaming various government agencies for the deadly fire, not the controversial artist collective founder.

“Our investigation shows that Derick Almena committed no conduct amounting to criminal negligence. He should not be made a scapegoat,” said attorneys Tony Serra, Jeffrey Krasnoff and Kyndra Miller in a joint statement.

Almena’s attorneys said Alameda County law enforcement and the District Attorney’s office, which is conducting the criminal investigation into the Dec. 2 fire that killed 36 people in the Fruitvale neighborhood warehouse, have a conflict of interest.

“Undoubtedly, there will be a civil case by decedents’ representatives who will sue for millions upon millions of dollars,” the attorneys said. “The Alameda Sheriff’s Office, (Oakland) Fire Department, (Oakland) building code inspectors, and Child Protective Services could be potential defendants in such a civil suit.”

Almena’s attorneys said the “deep pockets” in such a case would be those public agencies.

“It is our fear that improper charges could be brought against Derick and others by Alameda County in order to divert attention away from their own irresponsible agencies,” the lawyers wrote in the statement. “It is our intention, if the need arises, to defend vigorously by showing that the real culprits are the above agencies who didn’t do their jobs.”¹


¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...-almenas-attorneys-warn-not-to-scapegoat-him/
 
Tony Serra is representing the guy who had the lease on the property, Tony was a buddy of mine in college, we were both pre-law students which meant that your could go into law school a year early, after the LSAT tests none of us were accepted but told to declare a major and we would be accepted the following year, Tony and I decided to declare philosophy, after graduation I got married and Tony took off to tour Europe for a few years, when he returned he enrolled in Boalt school of law at U.C. Berkeley, I hadn't heard from him in years but sometime in the 70s the wife called me to her television where Morley Safer on 60 Minutes was doing a segment on Tony claiming he was the best attorney in the country, that he could bring any jury to tears and he beat the government every time he went against them. He's been to prison three times for income tax evasion, the last time during the sentencing hearing the DA pleaded with the judge to not to send him back to prison, but to sentence him to training young lawyers in the DA's office since he wasn't a threat to harm anyone, the judge didn't buy it and sent him back to prison.




¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...-almenas-attorneys-warn-not-to-scapegoat-him/


Ok I see the class of people you hang out with him and us?
 
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Ok I see the class of people you hang out with him and us?
Yeah, but he went to Cal for law school. They made a movie about him called True Believer, I went to see it to see who played me, unfortunately they didn't go back to his college days when he was clean-cut and wore a crew cut all the way through.

He has a point that will resonate with a jury, here we have firemen with a firehouse less than a block away, we have building inspectors enforcing ridiculous codes like the color and sizing of parking spaces and the heights of mirrors in bathrooms, while all kinds of serious code violations are allowed to exist that actually cost lives. We need to get our priorities straight and deploy these services where they will do the most good.

Just look at the deadly fires in rock music venues, when these activities are allowed to persist they should present a red flag for enforcement, take inspectors off bathroom duty enforcing signage telling people where they can and cannot pee and put them to work enforcing life-saving building requirements.
 
Looks like a lot of work for building and fire inspectors, everybody is turning everybody else in:

East Bay Times said:
OAKLAND — The number of anonymous fire and code enforcement complaints in this city spiked in the two weeks following the Ghost Ship warehouse fire that killed 36 people, casting a wide net that targeted legitimate and unpermitted spaces alike.

From Dec. 5-16, the city received 21 code enforcement complaints about people living in illegal or unpermitted spaces compared with just two complaints in the two weeks before the deadly Dec. 2 fire, according to city code enforcement data analyzed by the Bay Area News Group. Total code enforcement complaints were up 47.5 percent compared with the same time period last year, a marked increase that followed four years of declines.

And it’s not just live-work spaces that have come under increased scrutiny. At least two community event spaces, Qilombo and Omni Commons, have reported surprise inspections from city officials, the former of which was spurred by a complaint filed with the fire department not captured in the city’s code enforcement data.

In Omni’s case, the new complaint was attached to a code enforcement complaint lodged in May. According to data provided by the city, the fire department received 20 complaints from Dec. 5-16, compared with zero the week before the fire and just one during the week of Nov. 14-18 (no data was provided for the week of Thanksgiving).¹

I mentioned Omni above, they are groups of anticapitalists and various activist groups who bought an old Italian Social Club and were asking the City of Oakland to waive structural, fire, assessable standards so they could start living in the building as they remodeled it, I don't know if they were successful but the city is sure not telling us now.

East Bay Times said:
The spike in evictions and inspections has prompted grass-roots efforts to help artists and others living in communal warehouses make their spaces safer. And a petition aimed at city leaders in Oakland and San Francisco asking to halt all fire inspections had gathered more than 12,000 signatures by Wednesday.

People interviewed by this newspaper say it’s not that they don’t want to make their spaces safe, they just want a reasonable amount of time to bring their buildings up to code.

And that can take time, said Leighton Kelly, who helps rent out studio spaces at the West Oakland warehouse. He said no one was present for their annual fire inspection just two days before the Ghost Ship fire, and although one inspector came out the following week, Kelly was told they would need a different fire inspector to check out the space. As of Tuesday, Kelly said he has been working diligently to figure out which inspector he needs but hasn’t heard back from anyone in the city.

“I wanted to have them come over and check out the space to be proactive and to show them that we want to work them,” Kelly said. “Nobody wants blood on their hands.”¹

Maybe the city should suspend all inspections until they can evict these people and get their buildings legalized? Maybe apply the same discipline to these activists that you apply to us builders?


¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...re-code-enforcement-complaints-cast-wide-net/
 
This is getting exciting, people are playing amature building inspectors comparing themselves to the Nazi Schutzstaffel turning in the radial leftist groups that listen to rock music, others are calling themselves "tightie-righties"

East Bay Times said:
OAKLAND — In the wake of the Ghost Ship fire, some individuals banded together to save warehouses and artists’ spaces by fixing them; another group’s end goal was to shutter spaces in an effort to “crush the radical left.”

The group has called itself Right Wing Safety Squad but colloquially calls itself the SS, and claims to have contributed to shutting down 16 artists’ live-work spaces across the country. They claim responsibility for the crackdown on Burnt Ramen and Bridge Art Space in Richmond as well as Qilombo and Peralta Studios in Oakland, although they also admit they have no proof of their participation.

The call to action began Dec. 7 on 4chan, an anonymous online message board that birthed both the hacktivist group Anonymous as well as the practice of “Rickrolling,” an internet prank that sends people to a video by Rick Astley. The anonymous poster claimed that all “artspaces and illegal venues” were “hotbeds of liberal radicalism and degeneracy,” and requested others to report any code violations in an effort to “Make America Safe Again.”

Long forum discussions are accompanied by photos from inside DIY warehouse spaces and music venues, where amateur code inspectors point to what they say is evidence of hazards.

References to President-elect Donald Trump’s campaign slogan shared space with photos of Pepe the Frog, a cartoon character the Anti-Defamation League said has been increasingly co-opted by white supremacists, and Nazi imagery and references.

The group’s nickname, the SS, uses the same double lightning bolt runes that the Nazi paramilitary organization used. Even the name, Safety Squad, elicits comparisons to the Nazi’s Schutzstaffel, which translates to “protection squadron.”

Burnt Ramen, an underground music venue in Richmond, was shut down by the city’s code enforcement officers on Dec. 16. Mayor Tom Butt initially wrote on his website that he was alerted to Burnt Ramen’s purported code violations by a “social media author,” but later retracted that statement, saying it was an email from a concerned resident.

Sadaf Zahoor lived at Burnt Ramen until Dec. 16 and has said the residents are now sleeping on friends’ couches. She was upset that Butt had published the address of her home along with photos of the inside. Afterward, she said friends had alerted her to threatening statements and photos of her home on 4chan.

“It’s weird that people who have never heard of us are doing research (on our home), where it is exactly and how can you get there,” Zahoor said. “There were already people making allusions that we didn’t deserve to live and that they should burn the house down.”

The exact nature of the individuals within the group is mutable. Some soften their statements, saying they are protecting “unwitting leftists from getting themselves killed.”

On Monday, a 4chan manager posted on behalf of owner Hiroyuki Nishimura that the safety squad discussions would no longer be allowed on the political message board because they are off-topic. An additional warning was made that those types of discussions were risky, repeating the mantra that “4chan is not your personal army.”

The group has since moved on to a darker corner of the internet, 8chan, which Google had at one point banned from its searches. From there, groups such as the Watchdog Society: United Musicians Against Hate have started to harass the Right Wing Safety Squad, even into their newer home, on the on the Discord chat app.

Although officers in the Safety Squad have continued their organization, recent discussion touched on the “low energy” nature of the movement now and whether activities would be slowing down during the holidays.¹


¹ http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/12...ome-to-battle-over-diy-spaces-around-country/
 
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There is also talk of trying to sue the Fire Department for gross negligence.

Of course, someone has to be responsible, after all, we can't be expected to think for ourselves........

I'm very sorry people died, but at the end of the day, they were in that building of their own free will, not like they were held captive.

Probably won't be a popular opinion.
 
They made a movie about him called True Believer, I went to see it to see who played me, unfortunately they didn't go back to his college days when he was clean-cut and wore a crew cut all the way through.

I heard that the original actor that was cast to play conarb was....Richard Dreyfuss but he was doing Alway's! And Robert Shaw turned them down.
 
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I posted this over on The Journal of Light Construction, one guy replied:

JLC Forum said:
Beezo, its all about priorities. Liberals don't measure the merits and success of code enforcement by how many ravers are burned to death but rather by the compliance rate for the more stringent California ADA residential thresholds.¹

I'm sure this will come up in the civil action against the city, the time and resources expended enforcing ridiculous code requirements while allowing serious conditions to persist.


¹ http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/...-peer-forums/trade-talk/1066712-schutzstaffel
 
Maybe these areas should send cops, inspectors, and fire marshals as teams on sweeps red tagging unsafe buildings? I posted this on the JLC and one guy responded:

JLC said:
Beezo, its all about priorities. Liberals don't measure the merits and success of code enforcement by how many ravers are burned to death but rather by the compliance rate for the more stringent California ADA residential thresholds.¹

I guarantee that in the civil cases against the city the subject of misplaced priorities will come up.


¹ http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/...-peer-forums/trade-talk/1066712-schutzstaffel
 
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