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Accessibility Entrances

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E blum

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Per Sec. 1105.1 IBC - 60% of all entrances are to be accessible i have 7 entrances showing on my plan with one of them an elevator, per the code 4of them needs to be accessible, is there any way around that I don’t have where to make 4 ramps all around my building, what can I do?
 
That can help only for one, the other entrances are on the basement and on the 2nd floor
 
Only one restricted entrance needs to be accessible....

1105.1.3 Restricted entrances. Where restricted
entrances are provided to a building or facility, at least one
restricted entrance to the building or facility shall be
accessible.
 
When talking about entrances, it's referring to how people enter the building--not how they get from one floor to another. You only need one accessible route. For example, if a 2-story building has 10 exterior doors for the public to access the building, then at least 6 of those doors must be accessible. Once inside the building, you only need one elevator to access the second story for your accessible route.
 
that’s what I’m talking about I have all 7 entrances from the exterior to enter the building, I need to make so many doors because I need 2 means of egress from each floor and then I have a big gallery and big lunch room what needs 2 means of egress
 
Note: Chapter 10, all "required" exits must be accessible to public way or an area of refuge be provided.
If more than required those additional would require directional signage to accessible exits.
This could be confusing to someone seeing doors with panics that don't lead to accessible exits.
 
Then I'm failing to see what the problem is. You have 7 entrances; therefore at least 5 must be accessible (if you provide only 4, then that is 57%, which is less than 60%). Once someone is inside, you have one elevator for the accessible route to the basement and the 2nd story. For means of egress, you'll need at least two egress paths from the 2nd story and the basement, which can be enclosed exit stairs that discharge at grade level. The two exit stairways can also be considered as the two required accessible means of egress if they comply with IBC Section 1009.3; or, you can make one stairway comply with IBC Section 1009.3 and make the elevator your second required accessible means of egress, provided it complies with IBC Section 1009.4.

Maybe if you post some floor plans we can be more specific about our comments.
 
RLGA said:
Then I'm failing to see what the problem is. You have 7 entrances; therefore at least 5 must be accessible (if you provide only 4, then that is 57%, which is less than 60%). Once someone is inside, you have one elevator for the accessible route to the basement and the 2nd story. For means of egress, you'll need at least two egress paths from the 2nd story and the basement, which can be enclosed exit stairs that discharge at grade level. The two exit stairways can also be considered as the two required accessible means of egress if they comply with IBC Section 1009.3; or, you can make one stairway comply with IBC Section 1009.3 and make the elevator your second required accessible means of egress, provided it complies with IBC Section 1009.4.

Maybe if you post some floor plans we can be more specific about our comments.
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Can someone please help me how I can attached a file?
 
They usually don't mark the doors that are only exit doors on a plan which can be problematic.
Sometimes these exit only doors can be opened form the outside but I can't count them as a entrance door and a directional sign to the closest entrance door is not required at exit doors.

Does anyone require a sign "EXIT DOOR ONLY" if it is not clear that it's not an entrance door too?
 
E blum said:
that’s what I’m talking about I have all 7 entrances from the exterior to enter the building, I need to make so many doors because I need 2 means of egress from each floor and then I have a big gallery and big lunch room what needs 2 means of egress
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As Rick is saying, most of these doors do not sound like "entrances". Some might provide both egress and ingress, but not all. Be clear on your plans which ones do what.
 
Remember 1105.1 is Public Entrances

Definitions:
PUBLIC ENTRANCE. An entrance that is not a service entrance or a restricted entrance.
RESTRICTED ENTRANCE. An entrance that is made available for common use on a controlled basis, but not public use, and that is not a service entrance.
 
Rick18071 said:
If you are a member you can use the "upload a file" button where you reply.

Can some of the doors be exit only doors?
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yes, and that’s why we made this doors, because we need more means of egress, but where in the code does it say that if its exit only then it’s not counted for a entrance? You can still enter the building from that doors??
 
here you go
 

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  • Class E Building Plan 100 College Rd. Monsey NY2.pdf
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I opened it just fine. looks to me that you have some significant interior exiting and RR accessibility issues to work thru.
 
Looks like an existing building to me. Are you using the International Existing Building Code?

E blum said:
yes, and that’s why we made this doors, because we need more means of egress, but where in the code does it say that if its exit only then it’s not counted for a entrance? You can still enter the building from that doors??
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IBC Section 1105 (above) says 60% of entrances are to be accessible not exits. There is nothing in the code that requires exit doors to be locked on the outside. The designer decides what door is for what purpose as long as it's met the minimum code requirements.
 
Rick18071 said:
Looks like an existing building to me. Are you using the International Existing Building Code?



IBC Section 1105 (above) says 60% of entrances are to be accessible not exits. There is nothing in the code that requires exit doors to be locked on the outside. The designer decides what door is for what purpose as long as it's met the minimum code requirements.
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It’s not an existing building, if you are right that exits is not a problem then I’m ok

Thanks
 
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