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Are ground rods required under the 2017 NEC for temporary power as a sub-feed for a construction site? Would any part of NEC 250.50 apply?
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The NEC does have a definition of STRUCTURE:Nec definition:
BUILDING. A structure that stands alone or that is separated from adjoining structures by fire walls. (CMP-1)
STRUCTURE. N/A
This setup is fed from a service, is not a building or structure and would be installed as a sub-panel. If this were fed by the utility directly it would be a service and require a grounding electrode system. That it is a construction site, temporary power and not attached to a building has nothing to do with whether a grounding electrode system is required.I say no ground rods because it is a construction site and the temp power is not attached to a structure. What do you say?
It is just as described, not a service. This is a subfeed from a panel located on a structure on the site.This setup is fed from a service, is not a building or structure and would be installed as a sub-panel. If this were fed by the utility directly it would be a service and require a grounding electrode system. That it is a construction site, temporary power and not attached to a building has nothing to do with whether a grounding electrode system is required.
You've quoted 590.6(B)(2) out of context. It is a sometimes-available alternative to the basic rules of 590.6(A) and (B)(1) that requires GFCI protection for receptacles used for temporary power. It is not a general requirement.Here's a wrinkle in the fabric of the construction universe:
I don't see this as a wrinkle, this is just another requirement for temporary systems. It is for the EGC, not the GEC.Here's a wrinkle in the fabric of the construction universe:
590.6 (B)(2)(a) Assured Equipment Grounding Conductor Program. A written assured equipment grounding conductor program continuously enforced at the site by one or more designated persons to ensure that equipment grounding conductors for all cord sets, receptacles that are not a part of the permanent wiring of the building or structure, and equipment connected by cord and plug are installed and maintained in accordance with the applicable requirements of 250.114, 250.138,406.4(C), and 590.4(D).
(a) The following tests shall be performed on all cord sets, receptacles that are not part of the permanent wiring ofthe building or structure, and cord-and-plug-connected equipment required to be connected to an equipment grounding conductor:
All equipment grounding conductors shall be tested for continuity and shall be electrically continuous.
Each receptacle and attachment plug shall be tested for correct attachment of the equipment grounding conductor. The equipment grounding conductor shall be connected to its proper terminal.
All required tests shall be performed as follows:
a. Before first use on site
b. When there is evidence of damage
c. Before equipment Ls returned to service following any repairs
d. At intervals not exceeding 3 months
The tests required in 590.6(B)(2)(a) shall be recorded and made available to the authority having jurisdiction. The assured equipment grounding conductor program shall be documented and made available to the authority having jurisdiction.
It is not a general requirement. It is a possible alternative to providing otherwise required GFCI protection in some situations.I don't see this as a wrinkle, this is just another requirement for temporary systems.
But isn't it outdoors? And isn't everything outdoors GFCI now anyway? Or is that just dwelling units?It is not a general requirement. It is a possible alternative to providing otherwise required GFCI protection in some situations.
Cheers, Wayne
The OP is outdoors, but the thread has drifted into general temporary installation rules.But isn't it outdoors? And isn't everything outdoors GFCI now anyway? Or is that just dwelling units?
And, in this case, they have opted to install all GFCI protected receptacles. The GFCI issue is a thread drift so I am still wondering what people think as to whether or not ground rods for a GES is required. As previously stated, I say no.The OP is outdoors, but the thread has drifted into general temporary installation rules.
Basically, if the only reason you would need GFCI is because it's a temporary installation, and it's not a construction site (other than limited cases), then you have the option to use an "Assured Equipment Grounding Conductor Program" in lieu of using GFCI.
Cheers, Wayne
For all the wrong reasons.As previously stated, I say no
I just thought that it was interesting. It's one of those quirks found in the code that nobody has witnessed in the wild....well maybe you, as I am surprised at your expansive code knowledge.You've quoted 590.6(B)(2) out of context.
Not sure what all the wrong reasons are. A GES with GECs is not required for a stand along sub-panel not attached to a structure under the 2017 NEC.For all the wrong reasons.
The fact that this is from the 2017 makes all of the difference in the world compared to previous versions. Read your definitions.I could call the "rack" a structure if I wanted to.....If it was solely being used for extension cords I likely wouldn't.....If it had any circuits going anywhere else I probably would...
So you say that unistrut is equipment?The fact that this is from the 2017 makes all of the difference in the world compared to previous versions. Read your definitions.
Not sure what all the wrong reasons are.
I say no ground rods because it is a construction site and the temp power is not attached to a structure. What do you say?
That it is a construction site, temporary power and not attached to a building has nothing to do with whether a grounding electrode system is required.
Yes, per the definition of Equipment and as discussed and confirmed by CMP-1, hence for the change in the definition of Structure for the 2017 NEC. The Code Making Panel 1 (CMP-1) specifically pointed out the phrase "...and the like" in the definition of equipment. One of the reasons the change to the definition of the word Structure even happened was to clarify that ground rods were not needed for situations such as the one presented in this thread.So you say that unistrut is equipment?