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2010 ADA Standards for Accessible Designglobe trekker said:
Advisory 502.3.3 Marking. The method and color of marking are not specified by these requirements but may be addressed by State or local laws or regulations.
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Accessible Parking Signs
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Advisory 502.3.3 Marking. The method and color of marking are not specified by these requirements but may be addressed by State or local laws or regulations.
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Dear SOB,
I am GBHammer's doctor familiaris. GBhammer has contracted conjunctivitis of the code eye. I am hereby prescribing he take the remainder of the day to recover fully from his ailment and in order to protect his co-workers from contagion.
Thank You,
Dr. Papio
I am GBHammer's doctor familiaris. GBhammer has contracted conjunctivitis of the code eye. I am hereby prescribing he take the remainder of the day to recover fully from his ailment and in order to protect his co-workers from contagion.
Thank You,
Dr. Papio
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week ...?papio bldg dept said:
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This is Dr. (Feelgood) Papio!
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Dear SOB,Papio Bldg Dept said:
I am Dr. Hammer Headshrinker extraordinaire. Your employee has through his own admission had a mental lapse. I am hereby prescribing he take the remainder of the day to recover fully from his mental incontinence and in order to protect his co-workers from any possible embarrassment.
Thank You,
Dr. Hammer
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From the 2003 ANSI A117.1 - 502.3 Vehicle Space Marking.
Car and van parking spaces shall be marked to define the width. Where parking spaces
are marked with lines, the width measurements of parking spaces and adjacent access
aisles shall be made from the centerline of the markings.
EXCEPTION: Where parking spaces or access aisles are not adjacent to another parking
space or access aisle, measurements shall be permitted to include the full width of the
line defining the parking space or access aisle.
Car and van parking spaces shall be marked to define the width. Where parking spaces
are marked with lines, the width measurements of parking spaces and adjacent access
aisles shall be made from the centerline of the markings.
EXCEPTION: Where parking spaces or access aisles are not adjacent to another parking
space or access aisle, measurements shall be permitted to include the full width of the
line defining the parking space or access aisle.
mark handler
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Still does not require the ISA marking or the "blue" stripping... They just make it easier to see for the blind drivers....globe trekker said:
Francis Vineyard
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Even with the Accessible Parking signage a vehicle cannot be fined or towed unless such warning is posted in plain sight.Papio Bldg Dept said:
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That is what the signs are forfrancis vineyard said:
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Thanks Mark for the input!
Section 502.3, in the ANSI A117.1 would require a defined space to be legibly
marked though! ( i.e - they would have to define / mark the spaces , with
lines or a solid rectangular marking, ..yes? ).
Some type of markings, presumably similar in nature, to the nationally
recognized color of blue, would be "required" <--- ?? on the parking space
sides...
Section 502.3, in the ANSI A117.1 would require a defined space to be legibly
marked though! ( i.e - they would have to define / mark the spaces , with
lines or a solid rectangular marking, ..yes? ).
Some type of markings, presumably similar in nature, to the nationally
recognized color of blue, would be "required" <--- ?? on the parking space
sides...
mtlogcabin
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About a year ago the courts ruled the statue number and the amount of the fine had to be posted on the HC sign in order to enforce the penalties. We been placing stickers on the HC signs ever since.Francis Vineyard said:
GBrackins
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gotta love the justice system ... never seen the statue on a speed limit sign, wonder if I can use that arguement
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The method and color of marking are not specified by these requirements but may be addressed by State or local laws or regulations.
The method and color of marking may be addressed by State or local laws or regulations.globe trekker said:
Papio Bldg Dept
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pavement markings are only required to designate the width of the parking stall and differentiate the access aisle from adjacent parking stalls...Identification of the parking stalls occurs in 502.7, and are met by a vertical sign provision/requirement in compliance with 703.6.1 for Symbols. Colors are not specified in the ANSI beyond glare finish and contrasting the symbol with the background (light/dark), and are typically left to the discretion of the AHJ if specified at all.globe trekker said:
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The method and color of marking are not specified by these requirements but may be addressed by State or local laws or regulations.
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To all;
Please forgive my continuing to "flog this severely beaten horse", but I want to
understand clearly the parking space marking requirements.
Does Section 502.3, in the 2003 ANSI A117.1, "require" that both sides of an
Accessible parking space be marked / painted (i.e. - if the parking space is
striped, are both sides required to be painted / striped or only one side next
to the Access aisle?) The language in Section 502.3 states that the "space
shall be marked to define width".. how is this accomplished?
Thanks for ya'lls patience & indulgence.
Please forgive my continuing to "flog this severely beaten horse", but I want to
understand clearly the parking space marking requirements.
Does Section 502.3, in the 2003 ANSI A117.1, "require" that both sides of an
Accessible parking space be marked / painted (i.e. - if the parking space is
striped, are both sides required to be painted / striped or only one side next
to the Access aisle?) The language in Section 502.3 states that the "space
shall be marked to define width".. how is this accomplished?
Thanks for ya'lls patience & indulgence.
Papio Bldg Dept
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An access aisle is only required on one side of a parking stall. the parking stall may be striped in the same manner as non-accessible stalls, however the designated area for the access aisle shall be clearly demarcated to discourage/prevent parking (i.e., the typical hatch pattern).
Fridays are as good a day for flogging as any. Speaking of which I need to track down some Molly.
Fridays are as good a day for flogging as any. Speaking of which I need to track down some Molly.
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globe trekker said:
WHERE parking spaces are marked with lines...
So no those that follow ANSI A117, "both sides" are not required to be painted.... But something must define the space, could be a planter.....
mtlogcabin
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Did some checking into why and it was because the parking is on private property.GBrackins said: