1. Welcome to the new and improved Building Code Forum. We appreciate you being here and hope that you are getting the information that you need concerning all codes of the building trades. This is a free forum to the public due to the generosity of the Sawhorses, Corporate Supporters and Supporters who have upgraded their accounts. If you would like to have improved access to the forum please upgrade to Sawhorse by clicking here: Upgrades
    Dismiss Notice

damage avoidance

Discussion in 'Residential Fire Codes' started by ICE, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. ICE

    ICE Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    8,998
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    According to the captain it is all attics. He said it has to do with workman's compensation claims.
     
  2. Ty J.

    Ty J. Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,332
    Likes Received:
    511
    What type of system is required? NFPA 13, 13R, or 13D?

    I'd imagine that full NFPA 13 system is not required. A 13R or 13D is much more common for a SFD. Typically neither a 13R nor 13D have to sprinkle the attic space.

    Here is a great summary of the differences in the system types.

    https://www.meyerfire.com/blog/summary-of-differences-in-nfpa-13-13r-13d
     
    ADAguy likes this.
  3. cda

    cda Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    18,400
    Likes Received:
    1,307

    The water has to go through the pipe to get to the sprinkly things.

    Pipe is in the attic
     
  4. Ty J.

    Ty J. Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,332
    Likes Received:
    511
    Gee... thanks for the clarification?

    What are you trying to tell me? The point of my post was to clarify that depending upon the type of system (13, 13R, or 13D), sprinklers may or may not be required in the attic itself. Obviously the piping is assumed to be run in that attic.
     
    cda likes this.
  5. ICE

    ICE Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    8,998
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    There are three access scuttles. I just spoke to the fire inspector. He agreed to inspect from the scuttles and accept video of what he can't see from the scuttles. So the ceilings stay intact.
     
    my250r11, ADAguy and Ty J. like this.
  6. cda

    cda Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    18,400
    Likes Received:
    1,307

    Miracles !

    Surprise they climb more than a three step ladder.
     
  7. Rick18071

    Rick18071 Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2009
    Messages:
    2,524
    Likes Received:
    336
    Am an old inspector with bad knees. I have been allowing videos with smart phones more and more as my knees get worst.
     
    my250r11 likes this.
  8. cda

    cda Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    18,400
    Likes Received:
    1,307
    You young whipper snappers,,


    Love the old days when we just used a windshield, now you got them new Jetson phones with video
     
  9. mtlogcabin

    mtlogcabin Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    7,695
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    and the fire inspector will not get his pretty white ironed shirt dirty
     
    my250r11 likes this.
  10. ICE

    ICE Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    8,998
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    Oh I'm pretty sure there will be a coffee stain before it's over.

    The fact that the fire dept causes people to tear out ceilings is beyond outlandish. I don't understand how they get away with that. The public gets spitting mad over minor corrections that I write. If I told someone to rip out a ceiling so that I could see in the attic....well darn ....I would be enrolled in anger management training....with a side of 832PC......and I would need it. I can see the protestors gathering now.

    And I had to talk him into it. The fact that I too am an inspector made the difference....that, and well I did embellish some....we're gonna need a wheelchair for the owner ....I'll Google how to make a leg cast? Crutches I have.
     
  11. linnrg

    linnrg Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    464
    Likes Received:
    143
    if that is so true woudn't all of us run of the mill building inspectors be on workmen's comp. Yes there is a lot of workmen's comp for fire fighters who get injured on the scenes. I have worked with two fire marshals that went through shoulder surgery (and both were "questionable" workmen's comp) but I have never had a fire marshal who wouldn't work at least a little.
     
    my250r11 likes this.
  12. cda

    cda Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    18,400
    Likes Received:
    1,307
    I hate doing commercial roofs
     
  13. my250r11

    my250r11 Sawhorse

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2015
    Messages:
    715
    Likes Received:
    214

    Finally something sensible. ;)
     

Share This Page