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Discussion in 'Residential Fire Codes' started by ICE, Jul 27, 2020.

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  1. ICE

    ICE Moderator

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    According to the captain it is all attics. He said it has to do with workman's compensation claims.
     
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  2. Ty J.

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    What type of system is required? NFPA 13, 13R, or 13D?

    I'd imagine that full NFPA 13 system is not required. A 13R or 13D is much more common for a SFD. Typically neither a 13R nor 13D have to sprinkle the attic space.

    Here is a great summary of the differences in the system types.

    https://www.meyerfire.com/blog/summary-of-differences-in-nfpa-13-13r-13d
     
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    The water has to go through the pipe to get to the sprinkly things.

    Pipe is in the attic
     
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  4. Ty J.

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    Gee... thanks for the clarification?

    What are you trying to tell me? The point of my post was to clarify that depending upon the type of system (13, 13R, or 13D), sprinklers may or may not be required in the attic itself. Obviously the piping is assumed to be run in that attic.
     
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  5. ICE

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    There are three access scuttles. I just spoke to the fire inspector. He agreed to inspect from the scuttles and accept video of what he can't see from the scuttles. So the ceilings stay intact.
     
    #25 ICE, Jul 28, 2020
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  6. cda

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    Miracles !

    Surprise they climb more than a three step ladder.
     
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    Am an old inspector with bad knees. I have been allowing videos with smart phones more and more as my knees get worst.
     
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    You young whipper snappers,,


    Love the old days when we just used a windshield, now you got them new Jetson phones with video
     
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    and the fire inspector will not get his pretty white ironed shirt dirty
     
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  10. ICE

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    Oh I'm pretty sure there will be a coffee stain before it's over.

    The fact that the fire dept causes people to tear out ceilings is beyond outlandish. I don't understand how they get away with that. The public gets spitting mad over minor corrections that I write. If I told someone to rip out a ceiling so that I could see in the attic....well darn ....I would be enrolled in anger management training....with a side of 832PC......and I would need it. I can see the protestors gathering now.

    And I had to talk him into it. The fact that I too am an inspector made the difference....that, and well I did embellish some....we're gonna need a wheelchair for the owner ....I'll Google how to make a leg cast? Crutches I have.
     
    #30 ICE, Jul 29, 2020
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    if that is so true woudn't all of us run of the mill building inspectors be on workmen's comp. Yes there is a lot of workmen's comp for fire fighters who get injured on the scenes. I have worked with two fire marshals that went through shoulder surgery (and both were "questionable" workmen's comp) but I have never had a fire marshal who wouldn't work at least a little.
     
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    I hate doing commercial roofs
     
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    Finally something sensible. ;)
     
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