GFCI at floor sink?

[steveray]

"Sinks" without a water supply drive GFCI requirements? I wouldn't ask for it at a hub drain or floor drain, but floor sinks are not really addressed or exempted.....?

 

[ICE]

You come up with unusual questions. A mop sink has water supplied. A janitors sink has a water supply. If there is no water supply, is it really a sink?.....or just a drain.....you know, for old paint and stuff.

 

[ADAguy]

Why then are floor sinks required beneath equipment in commercial kitchens?

 

[e hilton]

A floor sink that’s not really a sink. What’s next ... a water closet that’s not really a closet?

 

[steveray]

You come up with unusual questions. A mop sink has water supplied. A janitors sink has a water supply. If there is no water supply, is it really a sink?.....or just a drain.....you know, for old paint and stuff.

If they were usual, then I wouldn't have a question.....is it the basin or the supply or the drain that drives the GFCI requirement? I think not the supply or we would be requiring them within 6' of hose bibbs...2023 NFPA 70 here we come...

 

[ICE]

Why then are floor sinks required beneath equipment in commercial kitchens?

They handle tailpieces and condensate. And by the way, all receptacles in a commercial kitchen have GFCI protection.

What about floor sinks beneath refrigerated displays in grocery stores? It is called a floor sink and receptacles are not required to be protected with GFCI on a sales floor.

 

[steveray]

Not a "commercial kitchen" concession counter. Microwaves do not count as cooking per NFPA...That is a whole nother argument....

 

[ICE]

I think that it is a stretch to require GFCI for a receptacle within six feet of a floor sink. However, considering the minor expense involved I wouldn't argue against that. I would not write that correction.

 

[Builder Bob]

floor sinks generally are not readily accessible in most cases - also they generally are equipment specific and not designed for general floor drainage - i.e. tilt kettle. And to be a little bit more specific, our Health department will not require floor sinks to be connected to a grease traps whereas floor drains do..........

We see lots of floor sinks, but very few floor drains in our kitchens.

 

[ADAguy]

HMMMMM.

 

[JPohling]

floor sinks generally are not readily accessible in most cases - also they generally are equipment specific and not designed for general floor drainage - i.e. tilt kettle. And to be a little bit more specific, our Health department will not require floor sinks to be connected to a grease traps whereas floor drains do..........

We see lots of floor sinks, but very few floor drains in our kitchens.

So 3 compartment sinks and dishwashers and other equipment that will have grease in the water that are being drained via air gap into a floor sink would not go to a grease trap in your jurisdiction?