tmurray
SAWHORSE
How close to the peak of the slope? Our installation standard requires them to be no closer than 900mm (~3') due to the heat concentration causing nuisance alarms.
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Hard Wired Smoke Detectors
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How close to the peak of the slope? Our installation standard requires them to be no closer than 900mm (~3') due to the heat concentration causing nuisance alarms.
Well they are suppose to be with in three feet of the peak.
Look at most manufacture install instructions,
Also, there should be a temperature range: Temperature Range 40°F (4°C) to 100°F (38°C)
tmurray
SAWHORSE
ICE
Oh Well
That is the opposite of mine. the zone you have marked as not allowed is where we put them with the exception of the top 4". I can't post a drawing from this computer but Shirley, somebody will.
https://www.utcccs-cdn.com/hvac/docs/2001/Public/00/User-Guide-Kidde-P3010H-P3010B.pdf
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You should read the code commentary.
tmurray
SAWHORSE
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
The manufacturer instructions are always right. Maybe different instructions for different alarms?
Usulty a house has a 8' ceiling somewhere so the smoke alarm doesn't have to be so high. If there is a 8' high soffit around a room with a high ceiling can't the smoke alarm be below the soffit? Why wouldn't the soffit be part of the ceiling?
Had problems of where to put smoke alarms in small chateau type houses where the 1st floor bedroom doorway is in a kitchen under a mezzanine and the rest of the house has a cathedral ceiling.
Usulty a house has a 8' ceiling somewhere so the smoke alarm doesn't have to be so high. If there is a 8' high soffit around a room with a high ceiling can't the smoke alarm be below the soffit? Why wouldn't the soffit be part of the ceiling?
Had problems of where to put smoke alarms in small chateau type houses where the 1st floor bedroom doorway is in a kitchen under a mezzanine and the rest of the house has a cathedral ceiling.
Paul Sweet
Sawhorse
Smoke rises, so the higher the smoke detector the sooner it will sense the smoke.
conarb
Registered User
Back when we were arguing the fire sprinklers I read that 75% of residential fires were cooking related and 10% smoking related, with the feminist movement nobody cooks in their homes anymore, my wife stopped cooking when she read the feminist books in the 70s, my mother cooked but neither the range or oven has been on in this house since my mother died 12 years ago, they've virtually outlawed smoking and fireplaces now so smoke detectors are necessary anymore. Frying food is unhealthy and a thing of the past except in lower class areas.
I think the shaded area is four inches and add 200 mm you are not more than one foot down
Which is approved
fatboy
Administrator
"Frying food is unhealthy and a thing of the past except in lower class areas."
Do you even think about what you are posting? I don't know why it continues to amaze me, but tt does.
Excuse me y'all, my buffalo wings are about done........don't want the oil too get hot.
Do you even think about what you are posting? I don't know why it continues to amaze me, but tt does.
Excuse me y'all, my buffalo wings are about done........don't want the oil too get hot.
Please, do share how you come up with these pearls of wisdom. Such a cynic with little to no respect for those who differ from you.
The codes are written to protect all, but maybe you would be happy with a code for the upper class and one for the lower class? As if that wont set us back 70 years.
ICE
Oh Well
I'm confused. Is that not the way it is now?
Paul Sweet
Sawhorse
Smokes let you know when your food is ready!
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
I only seen built in fryers in rich peoples houses.
IRC 2015-314.4 Interconnection...…….Physical interconnection of smoke alarms SHALL NOT be required where listed wireless alarms are installed...….
What he said was "Alternate means and methods - Bluetooth or wireless smokes are available. The master can be hardwired and the slaves monitored by the master hardwired smokes." Which is just not true. Interconnection YES can be wireless but each and every unit must receive its primary power directly from 110. Not battery powered units with wireless interconnection.
What's the purpose of that form? Can the homeowner possibly know those code sections? Looks like it was form-13, do you have more forms with more codes listed. Looks like it was revised back in 2016.
ICE, was that form made up by a dude in the office cherry pick'in codes to enforce?
Maybe allow a photo verification?
ICE
Oh Well
It’s not my form. It comes from the city of Los Angeles.