High rise design problem?

[cda]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/02/20/dubai-building-fire/23778589/

 

[fireguy]

Not sprinkled?

 

[Francis Vineyard]

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/external-sprinklers-part-of-new-fire-safety-rules-for-dubai-towers

 

[cda]

Not sprinkled?

News reports say yes and should be.

Exterior finish problem????

 

[conarb]

About 10 years ago we had a fire on the top floor of a Las Vegas high rise, it's that damn styrofoam cladding they use to make them "energy efficient". Note that there were interior sprinklers here but the article doesn't say if they went off because of the heat on the exterior fire, in any event they didn't do any good as usual.

As I said back in those sprinkler debates, as much as I disbelieve in interior sprinklers I believe in exterior sprinklers on any building with any type of styrofoam, either the ridged stuff behind stucco or wood cladding, or the spray foams inside the walls. All those buildings built with EIFS systems are at risk of wildfires or adjacent fires igniting the entire buildings.

 

[cda]

So build high rises with no fire sprinklers

Or build them a different way

Or limit height

 

[conarb]

So build high rises with no fire sprinklers Or build them a different way

Or limit height

Build every structure with all fireproof materials, do away with all plastics in buildings and all lightweight construction, then you don't need sprinklers and you don't have the toxic chemical problems we have now. As you know the intumescent coatings have now been outlawed because they were making people sick.

 

[cda]

Dang even Fred Flintsone's house would not qualify

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fy8TQ9PBgj4/STa0HNHpvFI/AAAAAAAAAng/5cKwnFb07aI/s400/flintstone4.jpg

 

[mtlogcabin]

The building lived up to it's name "The Torch"

 

[cda]

Missed that

Guess they should have named it the sprinkler and this would not have happened

 

[cda]

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22346184

 

[JBI]

I grew up in, and still live in, a rural area. Few tall buildings. I like it that way personally.

 

[cda]

About 10 years ago we had a fire on the top floor of a Las Vegas high rise, it's that damn styrofoam cladding they use to make them "energy efficient". Note that there were interior sprinklers here but the article doesn't say if they went off because of the heat on the exterior fire, in any event they didn't do any good as usual. As I said back in those sprinkler debates, as much as I disbelieve in interior sprinklers I believe in exterior sprinklers on any building with any type of styrofoam, either the ridged stuff behind stucco or wood cladding, or the spray foams inside the walls. All those buildings built with EIFS systems are at risk of wildfires or adjacent fires igniting the entire buildings.

double dog, you were correct!!!!!

http://www.firehouse.com/news/11972484/at-least-16-dead-in-baku-azerbaijan-hi-rise-fire-more-than-60-hurt

 

[steveray]

That is awesome...Get the marshmallows..