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Large digital display array considered a wall finish & required to comply with Section 803??

The interior finish is what is behind whatever is mounted on a wall.

[BF] INTERIOR WALL AND CEILING FINISH. The exposed interior surfaces of buildings, including but not limited to: fixed or movable walls and partitions; toilet room privacy partitions; columns; ceilings; and interior wainscoting, paneling or other finish applied structurally or for decoration, acoustical correction, surface insulation, structural fire resistance or similar purposes, but not including trim.
"paneling or other finish applied structurally or for decoration"

The OP made the comparison to a 72" television. Well the apparatus at hand is a 373" television. Not that big of a stretch for the plans examiner to have questions. Starting with "wall finish" trips up some of you. ..Alrighty then, what questions should be asked? A 31' television has me wondering about a bunch of stuff, one of which is wall finish.
 
When the "The exposed interior surfaces of buildings, including but not limited to: fixed or movable walls..." is video screen - wall to wall and floor to ceiling - sure seems like it's the interior finish. A lot of plastic.....

ps: sort of "decoration"
 
So now are we to question wood bookcases loaded with books, screwed into the wall to prevent overturn, as a finish?

I think not.
 
Would it be reasonable to consider it like stagecraft / scenery flats? If so what does the IBC and/or NFPA say about stagecraft materials?
 
Aren't bookcases furniture? I thought furniture was required to have a flamspread rating?

I don't know IFC, but LSC limits combustible wall coverings like students art work to 20% of the wall in sprinklered and 50% sprinklered. I don't know if that applies to books. Frankly, from my recent experiences on K-12 schools, books are becoming less prevalent. Of course I graduated from HS in 1971.
 
Would it be reasonable to consider it like stagecraft / scenery flats? If so what does the IBC and/or NFPA say about stagecraft materials?
Good or at least interesting point. Keep in mind stages are required to be sprinklered. If following LSC, that's new and existing, retroactively, and for over 50 years I believe.

In NYC, scenery has to pass a match test (which NFPA removed from NFPA 701 several cycles ago as not being a good predictor of performance in a reel fire). I suspect still used in NYC. I'm sure there are instances of it being used outside NYC but not much and not in schools - which by my estimates account for around 3 percent of stages.

BTW, almost everyone has moved from typical canvas on frame flats to Hollywood flats, framing on edge covered with thin ply or other panels. And many fewer painted drops than 50 years ago and many more projections - including large video walls. (Watch any country concert.) And a lot more metal and less wood. Just saying it's a lot different. I remember with a book shelf on stage you had to spray or dip every book in flame proofing. (Flamex now.)
 
I could not find any documentation with regards to what these micro LED tiles are composed of. If they are mostly plastic I would want to know the smoke and flame spread index of the product at a minimum.

It might be a stretch but since there is little information online I would use the sections below when asking for information.

2018 IBC

2606.7.5 Electrical luminaires.
Light-transmitting plastic panels and light-diffuser panels that are installed in approved electrical luminaires shall comply with the requirements of Chapter 8 unless the light-transmitting plastic panels conform to the requirements of Section 2606.7.2. The area of approved light-transmitting plastic materials that is used in required exits or corridors shall not exceed 30 percent of the aggregate area of the ceiling in which such panels are installed, unless the building is equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1.

2606.8 Partitions.
Light-transmitting plastics used in or as partitions shall comply with the requirements of Chapters 6 and 8.

SECTION 2611
LIGHT-TRANSMITTING PLASTIC INTERIOR SIGNS

2611.1 General.
Light-transmitting plastic interior signs shall be limited as specified in Sections 2606 and 2611.2 through 2611.4.

Exception: Light-transmitting plastic interior wall signs in covered and open mall buildings shall comply with Section 402.6.4.


2611.2 Maximum area.
The aggregate area of all light-transmitting plastics shall not exceed 24 square feet (2.23 m2).

Exception: In buildings equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1, the aggregate area of light-transmitting plastics shall not exceed 100 square feet (9.29 m2), provided that all plastics are Class CC1 in accordance with Section 2606.4.

2611.3 Separation.
Signs exceeding the aggregate area of Section 2611.2 shall be separated from each other by not less than 4 feet (1219 mm) horizontally and 8 feet (2438 mm) vertically.

2611.4 Encasement.
Backs of wall-mounted signs and non-illuminated portions of all signs regulated by this section shall be fully encased in metal.
 
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I could not find any documentation with regards to what these micro LED tiles are composed of. If they are mostly plastic I would want to know the smoke and flame spread index of the product at a minimum.

It might be a stretch but since there is little information online I would use the sections below when asking for information.

2018 IBC

2606.7.5 Electrical luminaires.
Light-transmitting plastic panels and light-diffuser panels that are installed in approved electrical luminaires shall comply with the requirements of Chapter 8 unless the light-transmitting plastic panels conform to the requirements of Section 2606.7.2. The area of approved light-transmitting plastic materials that is used in required exits or corridors shall not exceed 30 percent of the aggregate area of the ceiling in which such panels are installed, unless the building is equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1.

2606.8 Partitions.
Light-transmitting plastics used in or as partitions shall comply with the requirements of Chapters 6 and 8.

SECTION 2611
LIGHT-TRANSMITTING PLASTIC INTERIOR SIGNS

2611.1 General.
Light-transmitting plastic interior signs shall be limited as specified in Sections 2606 and 2611.2 through 2611.4.

Exception: Light-transmitting plastic interior wall signs in covered and open mall buildings shall comply with Section 402.6.4.


2611.2 Maximum area.
The aggregate area of all light-transmitting plastics shall not exceed 24 square feet (2.23 m2).

Exception: In buildings equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1, the aggregate area of light-transmitting plastics shall not exceed 100 square feet (9.29 m2), provided that all plastics are Class CC1 in accordance with Section 2606.4.

2611.3 Separation.
Signs exceeding the aggregate area of Section 2611.2 shall be separated from each other by not less than 4 feet (1219 mm) horizontally and 8 feet (2438 mm) vertically.

2611.4 Encasement.
Backs of wall-mounted signs and non-illuminated portions of all signs regulated by this section shall be fully encased in metal.
Now you guys are getting somewhere.
 
Barco and Christie are two major players. Daktronics (most score boards) too. I looked at data sheets and found nothing on flammability and flame spread noted.

The low cost way to do this - so likely to be common - is just commercial TV's with minimal bezel.

I'd guess these are available listed but suspect the listing is primarily electrical safety, not flammability or flame spread. Next code committee meeting I'll see if the UL rep can help. It's so expensive to buy their standards.
 
After some hours of online research, I found some interesting items regarding interior finish and LED panels. Maybe I can share and see if we can drive further forward.

https://www3.iccsafe.org/cs/committeeArea/pdf_file/BU_12_63_13.pdf - I think this has been already discussed in the forum, saying built-in or attached cabinets are not 'furnishings' and therefore not regulated by the code (IBC).

Then, I found an AHJ (some county in Virginia. I dont live in the US so not sure where this is or what it is:p) interpretation of the above ICC code interpretation.
https://www.pwcva.gov/assets/2021-04/bi2015-03.pdf
Basically two things,
1. Furniture (standalone or built-in place) is exempt from the Building Code.
2. The designer is responsible to delineate and segregate the wall or partition from the built-in place furniture.
I think the first item is straightforward with the ICC interpretation, but the second item, I am not really sure what it means...

Here in Hong Kong, when we use built-in or attached furniture, we try to have ASTM E 84 rating for the furniture surface that is meeting the wall surface.
Never had found code background for this, but I guess this will do the similar trick from the 2nd special note of the Virginian interpretation.

For the LED displays, I found South Nevada IBC amendments that might help.
In their 2018 amendments, https://www.snicc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IBC_Amendments.pdf
We have something in chapter 26 under the section 2611 of light-transmitting plastic interior signs.

2611.5 LED Display Panels.

Signs or displays utilizing LED display panels shall comply with this section of the code.

1. Panels used for LED displays shall be listed appliances.
2. Panel displays under 100 square feet in aggregate area shall not require any additional protection.
3. Panel displays between 100 square feet and 500 square feet in aggregate area shall be located in a space protected by an automatic sprinkler system.
4. Panel displays exceeding 500 square feet and below 1,000 square feet in aggregate area shall be protected with a water curtain complying with NFPA 13 across the exposed face of the display or be located in a space protected with an automatic sprinkler system of at least Ordinary Hazard Group 2.
5. Panel displays of 1,000 or greater square feet in aggregate area shall be protected by a water curtain complying with NFPA 13 across the exposed face of the display.
6. For panel displays exceeding 500 square feet, a Fire Protection Report shall be provided to substantiate the preceding requirements are met.


I am thinking because Las Vegas has a lot of casinos with a lot of large LED displays inside, the Southern Nevada building official needed to make some regulation for those LED displays otherwise won't be properly controlled. Except for water curtain, the requirements seem to be reasonable as there must be sprinklers already installed in casinos, anyway.

They also have some amendment for Appendix H Signs. I think this can be applied to external LED displays.

Adopt Appendix H and revise section H107.1.3. Section H107.1.3 Area Limitation. Add an exception to Section H107.1.3 to read as follows:

Exception: The area of plastics may be unlimited on a structurally independent sign provided the exterior walls of adjacent buildings are constructed in accordance with Table 602 and located;

1. A minimum of 10 feet from Type I building(s); and
2. A minimum of 10 feet, measured horizontally, from a building’s main entrance.

The separation distance from the sign and an adjacent building shall be a consideration for the rating of the building’s exterior walls. For the purposes of this exception, the fire resistance rating of the sign may be taken as 0 hours at any separation distance.


We are now studying this path, not sure whether our local AHJ will accept some other jurisdiction's local amendment as a proper code path...
Still, one thing I am not unclear about this one is whether the 1st condition is applying for all Type 1 buildings, including the building that the sign is serving.

I tried to contact with SNBO and get some code development process of these amendments, so maybe I can know better about the proposal's intent and justification of these numbers and conditions. I will get back when I have more info.
 
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