Name That Violation - IBC Version

[steveray]

And just for sake of discussion, depending on depth, the fire extinguisher cabinet could have done double-duty as cane detection for the AED cabinet IF their difference was less than 4”. As a hypothetical example:

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Yep.....been there, done that...

 

[e hilton]

And just for sake of discussion, depending on depth, the fire extinguisher cabinet could have done double-duty as cane detection for the AED cabinet IF their difference was less than 4”.

I bet the FE cabinet is 3.9” so as a stand-alone it is compliant.

And i wonder if the FE device is at a compliant height inside the cabinet.

 

[steveray]

I bet the FE cabinet is 3.9” so as a stand-alone it is compliant.

And i wonder if the FE device is at a compliant height inside the cabinet.

So the projection "above it" might be able to stick out 7.9" ish.....

 

[Yikes]

I bet the FE cabinet is 3.9” so as a stand-alone it is compliant.

And i wonder if the FE device is at a compliant height inside the cabinet.

And if the bottom of the FE cabinet is below 27”, it is in compliance with allowable projections (IBC 1003) regardless of depth.

 

[mjw_accessibility]

That observation doesn't address my criticism of 1003.3.3. My point is that if the top of the AED were 81" AFF, there would be no 1003.3.3 violation, despite it still being a head knocker.

I'm not familiar with Chapter 10 of the IBC, but looking at 1003.3, seems like 1003.3.1 second paragraph is also relevant:

"A barrier shall be provided where the vertical clearance above a circulation path is less than 80 inches (2032 mm) high above the finished floor. The leading edge of such a barrier shall be located 27 inches (686 mm) maximum above the finished floor."

But that section is also worded poorly, it needs to have an exception for the region within 4" from the wall to coordinate with 1003.3.3.

Cheers, Wayne

The leading edge is the bottom of the AED, not the top.

 

[wwhitney]

The leading edge is the bottom of the AED, not the top.

The top and bottom are faces, not edges. The leading edge would be one of the vertical edges that are farthest from the wall, the edge a user of the means of egress first encounters.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[Inspector Gadget]

I'm willing to bet that the little door-holdy-gizmo on the fire door is a non-permitted field modification and thus a violation of NFPA 80.

 

[ICE]

Is this a problem?

 

[MtnArch]

Is this a problem?

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Not until you trip over it.