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Partitions between fixtures - 2006 IBC & IPC

Papio Bldg Dept

Papio Bldg Dept

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I know I have seen a requirement for partitions between urinals in the code, but I am unable to find it today. Is there a section of the code that regulates when partitions are required. I have even looked in the accessibility chapter for scoping, and coming up blank. Looking for a refresher. Thanks.
 
2009 IBC section 2903 will give you your answer

Good Luck

Justin

OOPS guess I should of read your post I also can not find it in the 2006
 
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Moscow said:
2009 IBC section 2903 will give you your answerGood Luck

Justin

OOPS guess I should of read your post I also can not find it in the 2006
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Thx. That is a new section in the 2009 code. I swear I have seen the urinal partition requirement in the 2006 when more than one urinal is provided. The search continues.
 
Found it! IPC 310.4 for water closets & 310.5 for urinals...sandwiched between 309 (Flood Hazard Resistance) and 311 (Toilet Facilities for Workers) in the General Requirements Chapter. I can think of no better place to put it. No wonder they moved it in the 2009 codes. Thx again Moscow. Your 2903 reference actually helped me to find it.
 
Hunhhh.....No 310.5 in my 2003,,,,,I will have to wait to catch up with the rest of the world....or do you think I can get there because the urinals are a substitution for the W/C....?
 
Now take a look at the urinal screen's size especially the distance from the floor to the bottom and to the top of the urinal screen. Manufacturers do not make the urinal screen tall enough. Now look at the requirement for how far the urinal screen must project beyond the urinal basin. It takes a 24" wide urinal screen to comply.
 
Examiner said:
Now take a look at the urinal screen's size especially the distance from the floor to the bottom and to the top of the urinal screen. Manufacturers do not make the urinal screen tall enough. Now look at the requirement for how far the urinal screen must project beyond the urinal basin. It takes a 24" wide urinal screen to comply.
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I wonder how many urinal troughs comply with the privacy requirements....one big urinal, no partition required.
 
It's not a matter of partition spacing; it's a matter of center to center spacing of the fixtures. always 30".. not less than 15" from side wall, partition or vanity. IPC 405. hasn't changed in forever.

No requirement to separate urinals by code.. health department sometimes requires it.
 
2010 CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE CPC TABLE 4-3

Each water closet shall occupy a separate compartment which shall be equipped with a door, door latch and clothes hook. The door and the walls or partitions between fixtures shall be sufficient to assure privacy.
 
as long as you have at least 30" c/c of the urinals and at least 15" from c/l of urinal to partition (if installed - does not appear to be a code requirement), you're good. IF you install partitions, your c/c of the urinals will be more than 30".

I don't know (and don't profess to know or CARE to know) how you guys do your business. :)
 
papio, I think there is a IBC2009 code change requiring the divider between a urinal be 6" past the lip, but I don't have a 2009 code book to confirm.

pc1
 
2006 IPC Section 310.5 Urinal partitions Each urinal utilized by the public or

employees shall occupy a separate area with walls or partitions to provide privacy.....

Yes urinal screens are required.

Trough urinals are no longer legal to install. Existing installation are allowed to remain.
 
In theory, a trough urinal is a single urinal ("each urinal"). A wall at each end of the trough would provide privacy from the sink area or from other urinal troughs.

Perhaps I'm making this into a code p*ssing contest.
 
peach said:
as long as you have at least 30" c/c of the urinals and at least 15" from c/l of urinal to partition (if installed - does not appear to be a code requirement), you're good. IF you install partitions, your c/c of the urinals will be more than 30".I don't know (and don't profess to know or CARE to know) how you guys do your business. :)
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Peach, urinal partitions are required by the 2006(310.5) & 2009 IPC. There are also female urinals (thx google images). It seems the code allows urnials to be substituted for water closets regardless of sex. I am not sure it's functionality is any of my business either. ;)
 
steveray said:
Hunhhh.....No 310.5 in my 2003,,,,,I will have to wait to catch up with the rest of the world....or do you think I can get there because the urinals are a substitution for the W/C....?
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I think that is a reasonable extension as to the intent of the code, especially since later editions have added to the code to provide for privacy, which I believe to be the key noted intent of the code. Whether or not you actually enforce it as a policy or as an amendment to the code is the question I would ask myself. For designers, it is helpful to know all of the policies and amendments, as change orders do not often make for happy clients/owners/tenants.
 
I have a hard time getting hard, smooth,non-absorbant wall finishes on the plans we get.....on the first try at least....add another one to the review list...
 
I agree. Getting fully code compliant details or specifications on first submittal is not typical for me either, unless I have spoken directly to the designer in the past. I used to provide them with the code number (short of listing the actual code verbatum), and request them to clarify their means of compliance, in a hope that they would actually read it and commit some portion of it to memory. No such luck here. It almost has to be verbally and visually reviewed with the designer at the same time, usually by asking if they have their code book, have they read their code book, and then have them follow along as I read it out loud over the phone.
 
Bob, yes a urinal screen is not required in a private restroom or a unisex restroom. However, we do not know if separate sex restrooms are required.

I was in an farily new office building some months ago that required separate sex restrooms and the restrooms were labeled Unisex. There were two of these on the same floor close to each other. I my opinion that was a code violation because the occupant load required separate sex restrooms prior to any Unisex. Do not know if the building Owner or someone else allowed that signage.
 
in our jurisdiction, single user restrooms CAN NOT LEGALLY be designated male or female.
 
peach said:
in our jurisdiction, single user restrooms CAN NOT LEGALLY be designated male or female.
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That is actually an intriguing idea. Has your jurisdiction always done this? What is your general impression of not designating the sex, but rather providing two uni-sex restrooms?
 
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