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Professional Drawings

Discussion in 'Commercial Building Codes' started by jar546, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    This is considered commercial because it is a 3 or more unit apartment building. They plan on removing the existing deck and replacing it with a new deck and new stairs which will include "putting new 6x6 posts in 42" deep holes"Exactly how exactly am I suppose to figure this one out for plan review? I am very fortunate that we routinely get great, professional submissions like this.How many of you would just issue the permit?

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  2. TheCommish

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    i wold give him the crayons back, suggest graph paper with a straight edge and require enough detail so I could build it without having to guess a the sizes of the material. Then we could discuss the whole is a RDP required question
     
  3. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    BTW folks, Feel free to print this and give it to your kids or grandkids to color.
     
  4. TheCommish

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    i have a bunch on my office wall
     
  5. ICE

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    Brent could build that. Of course, here in California, engineers help out with stair construction.
     
  6. MASSDRIVER

    MASSDRIVER Registered User

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    I wish I were rich.

    I would drive across the country and build that sumb1tch EXACTLY like that drawing.

    At least you know it's a house, and not a cliff.

    Brent.
     
  7. ICE

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    Wish for filthy rich and take a plane.
     
  8. Msradell

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    That drawing would even be sufficient for a residential project to say nothing about a commercial one!
     
  9. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    I respectfully disagree that this drawing would be good for any project other than for children to color.
     
  10. ICE

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    There, I fixed it.
     
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  11. fatboy

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    The only thing that drawing is good for was the chuckle..........
     
  12. rshuey

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    No way in hell. Is the back free-standing? haha
     
  13. mtlogcabin

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    In their mind it is a simple job. Replace what is existing with new materials no big deal what is all the fuss about drawings when you can go out and see what is there?

    We run into this a couple times a year with various projects. We meet the people onsite explain what the minimum info would be on a drawing and the different views required.
     
  14. Rick18071

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    I would not accept this drawing. Need design loads too.
     
  15. Francis Vineyard

    Francis Vineyard Registered User

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    It depends are fees charged differently for submission of professional drawings that spells out the details and calculations compared to the time an inspector to track down design errors who are normally not qualified to make such judgments with the crayon drawings?

    And what are the guidelines for design professionals to submit elementary type drawings to cut costs for their services and put the extra demands on the inspection department?
     
  16. Francis Vineyard

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    Double posted from refreshing poor connections deep in the blue ridge mountains!
     
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  17. chris kennedy

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    Your going to need the fastener details, don't know why Jeff didn't post them.

    Here you go.

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  18. steveray

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    If I was bored and hated them I would approve those drawings.......
     
  19. zigmark

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    All that's needed for that drawing to be compliant is a note "Built to Code". Tada..... it's fixed. I'm sure the guy plans to overbuild it anyhow.

    ZIG
     
  20. glzath

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    Well, if you stare at it long enough it kind of turns Escher-esque.

    (my apologies to M. C. Escher)
     

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