turning space in R1 bedroom

[Mr. Inspector]

Did a plan review on a large R1 building. One thing I noted on it was they needed a turning space in what they are calling a Kid's Room in an accessible unit. It's a small room with two beds 4' across from each other. Inbetween the beds on the end wall is a 4' doorway with no door. They are indicating a "T" turning space with the bottom of the T going into the room through the door. The top of the T turning space is in the hall of the accessible unit. 2009 ANSI wants a turning space in all rooms in an accessible unit. Would you accept this when the turning space is not entirly in the room?

 

[mark handler]

2009 ANSI 1002.3.2 Turning Space. All rooms served by an accessible route shall provide a turning space complying with Section 304.

Section 304.3.2 allows a T-Shaped Space. If there is no door, and there is clear space, approved as designed.....

 

[jar546]

2009 ANSI 1002.3.2 Turning Space. All rooms served by an accessible route shall provide a turning space complying with Section 304.Section 304.3.2 allows a T-Shaped Space. If there is no door, and there is clear space, approved as designed.....

Agree, turning space is more than just a circle.

 

[Mr. Inspector]

But does the whole "t" need to be in the room?

 

[mtlogcabin]

It's a small room with two beds 4' across from each other.

Remove one of the beds

 

[mark handler]

But does the whole "t" need to be in the room?

IMHO, No.

 

[Mr. Inspector]

PA L&I told me that this is no good.

 

[mark handler]

PA L&I told me that this is no good.

They are the AHJ

 

[Mech]

Time for bunk beds. :-D