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The ultimate questions is, is the lobby an exit passageway? To me it would depend on the lobby. I think the intent is to provide a rated corridor to the exit, if the lobby meets that intent, I would be willing to approve it.
SECTION 1022 EXIT ENCLOSURES
1022.1 Enclosures required. Interior exit stairways and interior exit ramps shall be enclosed with fire barriers constructed in accordance with Section 707 or horizontal assemblies constructed in accordance with Section 712, or both. Exit enclosures shall have a fire-resistance rating of not less than 2 hours where connecting four stories or more and not less than 1 hour where connecting less than four stories. The number of stories connected by the exit enclosure shall include any basements but not any mezzanines. Exit enclosures shall have a fire-resistance rating not less than the floor assembly penetrated, but need not exceed 2 hours. Exit enclosures shall lead directly to the exterior of the building or shall be extended to the exterior of the building with an exit passageway conforming to the requirements of Section 1023, except as permitted in Section 1027.1. An exit enclosure shall not be used for any purpose other than means of egress.
Exceptions:
1. In all occupancies, other than Group H and I occupancies, a stairway is not required to be enclosed when the stairway serves an occupant load of less than 10 and the stairway complies with either Item 1.1 or 1.2. In all cases, the maximum number of connecting open stories shall not exceed two.
1.1. The stairway is open to not more than one story above its level of exit discharge; or
1.2. The stairway is open to not more than one story below its level of exit discharge.
2. Exits in buildings of Group A-5 where all portions of the means of egress are essentially open to the outside need not be enclosed.
3. Stairways serving and contained within a single residential dwelling unit or sleeping unit in Group R-1, R-2 or R-3 occupancies are not required to be enclosed.
4. Stairways in open parking structures that serve only the parking structure are not required to be enclosed.
5. Stairways in Group I-3 occupancies, as provided for in Section 408.3.8, are not required to be enclosed.
6. Means of egress stairways as required by Sections 410.5.3 and 1015.6.1 are not required to be enclosed.
7. Means of egress stairways from balconies, galleries or press boxes as provided for in Section 1028.5.1 are not required to be enclosed.
Pretty sure it is in 2012 where the open stair become readily allowed....
Thanks for the thoughts but it doesn't appear to be the same in the 15' IBC. We are looking at this project as a Level 2 Alteration in the 15' IEBC. Our Work Area is more than 50% so I am trying to clarify if, under the exception in IEBC 803.2.3, that the enclosure is required. It doesn't appear so in the 12' code but the exceptions in the 15' code have changed.
IEBC 803.2.3 Supplemental Stairway Enclosure Requirements
Where the work area on any floor exceeds 50 percent of that floor area, stairways that are part of the means of egress serving the work area shall, at a minimum, be enclosed with smoke-tight construction on the highest work area floor and all floors below.
Exception: Where stairway enclosure is not required by the International Building Code or the International Fire Code.
Both stairs currently discharge pretty much directly onto the street and have no enclosure at the second floor. Under the current configuration and our inability to alter the suite below enclosures would probably be technically infeasible...
Could use the code that was in existence at the time when the restaurant was permitted with open stairs in accordance with the exception in 301.1
He does not solidly indicate it was a restaurant now or before
In accordance with the Virginia Administrative Code the Code Official does not have the authority to deny provisions or exceptions allowed in the code.The 1019.2 exception #1 does seem to solve the problem. What jurisdiction lets you look at a project under the code when it was permitted? In our case we have to look at this project under the 15' codes.
I appreciate everyone's input on this!
The 1019.2 exception #1 does seem to solve the problem. What jurisdiction lets you look at a project under the code when it was permitted? In our case we have to look at this project under the 15' codes.
I appreciate everyone's input on this!
See the exception to IEBC Section 301.1.What jurisdiction lets you look at a project under the code when it was permitted? In our case we have to look at this project under the 15' codes.