Architect1281
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Remids me of the old Flip WIlson joke that ends in --- Lady calm down we'll even get a banana for your monkey!
and hence, most of them are wrong. The purpose of the sprinkler system requirement for group R is to allow sleeping residents to get out. A full 13 system has far more ambitious goals.permitguy said:If there's a group R fire area, the building must be sprinklered throughout (not just the R). I'd ask for more information and classify accordingly. Based on several previous debates, a full 13 system would be required by most contributors here for areas beyond the R.
So a 13R is brudgersville, and a full 13 in the rest of the country.and hence, most of them are wrong.
I wouldn't want to stand on that ice. I didn't tell them to put a bedroom in there, I'm just telling them what they have to do because they put a bedroom in there. That is, IF it's a bedroom.Assuming a full building fire alarm and direct outside egress are not already required, it would be silly to require a sprinkler system instead of approve an alternate means of compliance for the room.
When there is only one dwelling, 13D is sufficient. It is also sufficient when there are only two. I'll say it again, the sprinkler is only intended to provide the occupant with a better chance of survival prior to the arrival of a trained fire crew.permitguy said:So a 13R is brudgersville, and a full 13 in the rest of the country.
So a 13D in brudgersville, and a full 13 in the rest of the country.When there is only one dwelling, 13D is sufficient. It is also sufficient when there are only two.
Not as often as the mistaken common wisdom, unfortunately.permitguy said:So a 13D in brudgersville, and a full 13 in the rest of the country. I think we're well aware of your justification, as it's been repeated often.