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What happens if a city approves a deck that seems to violate fire codes

Discussion in 'Residential Fire Codes' started by Jane, Sep 2, 2019.

  1. JCraver

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    I'm just being ornery, but if this hint tells us who the "former Senator" is then I hope Jane wins this deal. My opinion of him is formed solely from the news, but it's not very high...
     
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  2. Jane

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    I respectfully disagree. His deck runs the entire length of our shared fence line and does not comply with zoning. My neighbor can now see in all of my windows from his deck as it extends out so far (see attached link) and I suspect that is why there are zoning laws in the first place.

    http://imgsafe.org/image/691efdf951
     
  3. Jane

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    My opinion of him is firsthand and he is ok so long as he's getting what he wants. Politically he is planning a run for POTUS 2020. He wants to buy my house and has been putting a lot of pressure on me to sell (at a reduced price). When we had termites he refused to pay his share of the costs until the previous HOA put a lien on his house. He wouldn't let me see the deck plans but assured me that the deck would increase MY property value!!! Thanks for the support - I hope I win too as I can't imagine what this place would be like if everyone built a deck that size. Most people are more neighborly than that and would buy a single family dwelling if they needed a deck that size.
     
  4. cda

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    I think there is something about exiting under a deck, or cover. Not allowed
     
  5. cda

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    If the there was a permit issued for the work, than normally at least one inspection is done.

    Of course sometime the problem is, the contractor/ home owner does not bother to call for an inspection, and sometimes the city is to busy, or does not care, so no inspection is ever done.
     
  6. cda

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    I would pass this on to the nice counsel person, to ask WHY
     
  7. Jane

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    I did that. I also included the Mayor, the State Ombudsman, and the city attorney. It seems to me that no one was doing their job on this project - or it was a favor for a friend :(
     
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  8. Jane

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    That makes sense - at least they're keeping one rule!
     
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    Does this invalidate the permit?
     
  10. Glenn

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    I would not worry yourself with their footings. Doing so slowly moves you from a concerned neighbor worried about fire spread to an angry neighbor looking for anyway to enact revenge on something you don't like. Tread carefully...you don't want to appear as the latter...
     
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  11. Jane

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    Good point - I am angry with the city for not doing its job but if they just correct it that would be nice. I'm not an angry person though and you're right - I need to be careful that I don't portray myself as a vengeful neighbor. I'll go back into my nice calm world once this debacle is over - whatever way it turns out.
     
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  12. cda

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    No

    Just work done and never inspected

    Since kind of the only person that cares, is the one who had the work done and is sipping a drink on the deck.



    Like a student turning in homework and never graded.
     
  13. Jane

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    So, I've had a bit of an "email chat" with the city attorney and he has said (Reader's Digest version) that our homes are not subject to any zoning since lot coverage rules were not applied in our original PD.(This is not true as the city rules say that, once developed, the PD is subject to R2 zoning. He also said that since the garages to the rear of my property are lawful nonconforming structures that the deck is just an addition to that and therefore is allowed. He basically said (and actually said) that if you have one nonconforming structure on your property then it's basically fair game to add more nonconforming structures. Now, I may only teach math but my brain is telling me that he is not correct?
     
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    Thats BS smoke screen logic. Did the attorney used to work for an S&L in the 80’s? If the deck were attached to the garage there would be some logic, but it's attached to the fully-conforming house.

    I agree about not raising the issue of no inspections during construction, but to answer your question about post mortem footing inspection ... all it takes is a shovel. You couldnt tell if the correct rebar is inside (if any is required) but you could easily tell if they are deep enough.
     
  15. Jane

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    Ha! Since I'm not in the building profession I don't get the S&L reference but feel free to fill me in. I'm not sure a shovel would help with the footings since they apparently used 86 60lb bags of cement! There may be bodies under that deck! :)
     
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    The Donald might help.
     
  17. Jane

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    The Donald is my third cousin!! (twice removed) I'm not sure if that helps or hinders my dilemma with the city :(
     
  18. Jane

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    According to the city attorney we don't have to abide by any zoning ordinances - therefore there is no need for a variance! I'm totally confused.
     
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    Wait a minute what made the garage non conforming????

    It was part of the original build.

    The city approved the entire set up.
     

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