Re: When to call em on it?
http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/who/AR/Design_Code_Manual.pdf Page 6
GUIDELINES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
Code enforcement officials’ responsibilities relative to the design professions licensing and practice Acts include, but
are not limited to, the following:
Technical Submissions Reviews
Technical submissions for construction projects filed for approval for buildings, structures, or engineering works and
plats of survey are to be prepared under the direct supervision and control of the design professional sealing and
signing the documents in accordance with Guidelines for Technical Submissions as they apply to the specific
project. Such documents should be reviewed by the code enforcement official to assure conformance with local
laws, zoning, deed restrictions, codes and regulations, as well as applicable State and Federal laws. Technical
submissions for all non-exempt buildings or works are to have the seal(s) and original signature(s) of the design
professional(s) with a current valid license who prepared or caused the submissions to be prepared. Seals shall be
affixed in accordance with the respective Acts. Technical submissions for exempt projects shall also comply with
all standards and codes, but shall not require a design professional’s seal. The Professional Design Firm
registration number shall be included on the technical submissions.
The bold italic underline was done by me so you wouldn't miss it again. But then again, you missed the bold underlined text of the actual LAW I provided, so I don't hold out much hope.
The law says you can accept drawings without a seal...exempt projects don't require a seal.
The architect's law still requires the architect to seal it (the engineer's law may say otherwise).
Unsealed plans prepared by an architect only violate one law, not two...and probably don't do much for the architect's E&O rating.
The scope of the exemption is for all design professionals, the more specific requirements of the architect's law apply to architects.
It's one of those principles you learn over time, more specific requirements can over-ride general exemptions.
Is this clear enough for you?TJacobs said:If an man with pencil who draw prepares documents for construction in Illinois, they have to seal it.brudgers said:TJacobs said:[snip irrelevant response.]
Even on a project that does not require an man with pencil who draw.
The law is absolutely clear.
http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/who/AR/Design_Code_Manual.pdf Page 6
GUIDELINES FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
Code enforcement officials’ responsibilities relative to the design professions licensing and practice Acts include, but
are not limited to, the following:
Technical Submissions Reviews
Technical submissions for construction projects filed for approval for buildings, structures, or engineering works and
plats of survey are to be prepared under the direct supervision and control of the design professional sealing and
signing the documents in accordance with Guidelines for Technical Submissions as they apply to the specific
project. Such documents should be reviewed by the code enforcement official to assure conformance with local
laws, zoning, deed restrictions, codes and regulations, as well as applicable State and Federal laws. Technical
submissions for all non-exempt buildings or works are to have the seal(s) and original signature(s) of the design
professional(s) with a current valid license who prepared or caused the submissions to be prepared. Seals shall be
affixed in accordance with the respective Acts. Technical submissions for exempt projects shall also comply with
all standards and codes, but shall not require a design professional’s seal. The Professional Design Firm
registration number shall be included on the technical submissions.
The bold italic underline was done by me so you wouldn't miss it again. But then again, you missed the bold underlined text of the actual LAW I provided, so I don't hold out much hope.
The law says you can accept drawings without a seal...exempt projects don't require a seal.
The architect's law still requires the architect to seal it (the engineer's law may say otherwise).
Unsealed plans prepared by an architect only violate one law, not two...and probably don't do much for the architect's E&O rating.
The scope of the exemption is for all design professionals, the more specific requirements of the architect's law apply to architects.
It's one of those principles you learn over time, more specific requirements can over-ride general exemptions.