Is an electrical permit required?

[jar546]

Let’s say, hypothetically, that you had to replace the automatic transfer switch for a generator for a high-rise. In doing so, you decided that you were going to make the existing generator a junction box and install a brand new automatic transfer a switch in a new location. Would this work on a 480 V system require a permit in your jurisdiction?

 

[ICE]

Yes. Right after passing plan check.

Looks like this is ready for a recycling center.



Looking sorta outdoorsy there....is that a 3R cabinet with rain tight top entries?

 

[steveray]

110.26whatever for the gas pipe on the floor working clearance? and yes permit...

 

[Mr. Inspector]

Permit required

 

[fatboy]

Oh heck yeah............

 

[SCBO1]

Permit for the new work, yes
Using the old cabinet as a junction box?

 

[steveray]

Is the TS emergency or legally required or standby? At the point of a new relocated switch, I am sure we would require the loads to be separated....NEC 700.10B

 

[chris kennedy]

A couple details Jeff failed to mention;

Job was done by the company I work for

The building where the work was preformed is next to the bldg dept
(Jeff’s office)

Jeff and I personally visited the site prior to the work being preformed

 

[SCBO1]

Article 100, Cabinet definition: An enclosure that is designed for either surface mounting or flush mounting and is provided with a frame, mat, or trim in which a swinging door or doors are or can be hung.

Also see definition of Cutout boxes.

Art. 312
312.1 thru 312.8
Need adequate space

 

[e hilton]

A couple details Jeff failed to mention;

Job was done by the company I work for

The building where the work was preformed is next to the bldg dept
(Jeff’s office)

Jeff and I personally visited the site prior to the work being preformed

So is this discussion because the 2 of you disagree?

 

[chris kennedy]

Not at all. Why our office didn’t pull a permit is beyond me.

 

[classicT]

Not at all. Why our office didn’t pull a permit is beyond me.

So this thread is just Jar busting your....

 

[steveray]

I didn't see any Romex....?

 

[jar546]

I didn't see any Romex....?

That is how you know Chris did not do the job.

 

[jar546]

So this thread is just Jar busting your....

Actually no. Chris and I both don't understand why they did not pull a permit and I would have never publicly brought this out other than the way I posted it.

 

[SCBO1]

Romex has other uses.
1) A belt when your's breaks on the job
2) Finger splint with electrical tape
3) Tie for a bundle of wires
4) Make a hook on one end to retrive your keys from a drain
5)

 

[jar546]

Romex has other uses.
1) A belt when your's breaks on the job
2) Finger splint with electrical tape
3) Tie for a bundle of wires
4) Make a hook on one end to retrive your keys from a drain
5)

All of which Chris taught me. After all, they don't call him the Romex King for nothing.

 

[steveray]

Actually no. Chris and I both don't understand why they did not pull a permit and I would have never publicly brought this out other than the way I posted it.

Shtuff happens....As long as it is not a problem to inspect, pull the permit now and play through....

 

[Mr. Inspector]

Make them pay double for the late permit.

 

[jar546]

Make them pay double for the late permit.

2.5X the fee

 

[chris kennedy]

2.5X the fee

No problem
We will just add that on to the work we are doing at your water treatment facility

 

[SCBO1]

ahhh.. a cost overrun!

 

[steveray]

No problem
We will just add that on to the work we are doing at your water treatment facility

Crappy work anyway....

 

[Genduct]

Not at all. Why our office didn’t pull a permit is beyond me.

If you were replacing or upgrading the Main Breaker in same cabinet ( as opposed to the Transfer Switch) would you need to get a Permit?
BUT
It seems that when you move the device, someone needs to verify that the access Rules, working space etc needs to be verified ( i.e. Inspected and therefore a Permit is required because an Inspection is needed