jar546 said:I love the headless people
Headless zombies don't pull permits.jar546 said:That truly is the wild, wild west out there. It is as if there was never any code enforcement at all or no one has ever been fined and paid for their stupidity, therefore there is no incentive to comply.
Well, let's see; The engineer has probably been to the site one time, if at all. The contractor was the lowest bidder and probably has never been in a situation even close to this before. Last week he was tapped out putting in a skylight or something. The homeowner only knows work is being performed. Homeowners by and large are cheap idiots. If they aren't, then you don't see this type of thing."What bothers me about these instances is that there are lots of people involved from the engineers to the contractors and owners. There are electricians and plumbers, rod busters and equipment operators, laborers and a family. Yet I am the first to raise an alarm.How could it be that smart, successful, savvy people miss the mark and a mere building inspector finds the bull's-eye. Sometimes I get the feeling that I am the problem."
Well, let's see; I'll concede that in this case, the engineer was clueless but from there you are wrong on every other point.MASSDRIVER said:Well, let's see; The engineer has probably been to the site one time, if at all. The contractor was the lowest bidder and probably has never been in a situation even close to this before. Last week he was tapped out putting in a skylight or something. The homeowner only knows work is being performed. Homeowners by and large are cheap idiots. If they aren't, then you don't see this type of thing.
The workers? Really? It's everything you can do just to GET a job, and you expect them to come forward with a complaint or something? Most those guys are at the very limit of their abilities as it is, and only know what they are told.
There is no "team" there. That's a free-for-all in that picture.
Brent.
Your post just proves my point. The amount of gas stations you own is no indication of your intelligence or financial tendencies.ICE said:Well, let's see; I'll concede that in this case, the engineer was clueless but from there you are wrong on every other point.The pool contractor has been around for a long time and has done many projects akin to this. The low bid wasn't low at $128K. The contractor has few employees and sublets the work to other contractors. All of the workmen that are involved are competent at their trade and would have little difficulty finding a job.
No fines. Permit fee can be doubled. We don't double fee homeowners so if a contractor gets caught they send the owner in to get a permit. The incentive is to not get a permit until being told to. The disadvantages of getting caught depend on what the job is. An el. service would only need an inspection.....a room addition might get torn up some.jar546 said:Was anyone fined for this situation? Is there a double or triple permit fee for working without a permit? Are there any disadvantages to getting caught without a permit or is easier to risk not getting a permit because nothing happens anyway?
This is what I said:MASSDRIVER said:YYou asked how can you be the only one who notices such problems. Well, not to bust the ego bubble, but your'e not.
I am quite certain that I am the last person to notice in as much as I am the last one to show up at the party.What bothers me about these instances is that there are lots of people involved from the engineers to the contractors and owners. There are electricians and plumbers, rod busters and equipment operators, laborers and a family. Yet I am the first to raise an alarm.How could it be that smart, successful, savvy people miss the mark and a mere building inspector finds the bull's-eye. Sometimes I get the feeling that I am the problem.
Just for clarity, allow me please to reset and restate...ICE said:This is what I said:I am quite certain that I am the last person to notice in as much as I am the last one to show up at the party.
Yes and I was impressed with the effort. The workman that met me yesterday didn't speak English and it was like I was being tested to see if I actually do inspections or just blow through. I spent ten minutes going over the plans and answering questions. I realized that the contractor knows what he's doing and that went both ways so the job may not go as bad as I had predicted.jar546 said:Well, progress is a good thing