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Electrical Panel Location

Discussion in 'Electrical Codes' started by James T Timler, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. James T Timler

    James T Timler Registered User

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    No crawl space under this house it is just on a slab. All wires appear to run in the ceiling and then back down along the fireplace and then into the panel.
     
  2. cda

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    Thanks for supporting

    Yea two more recruits and I get a toaster.
     
  3. cda

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    Have an electrician evaluate

    Maybe easiest is next to the fireplace.

    Where is the electric meter in relation to this picture.
     
  4. James T Timler

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    The meter is outside next to the chimney of the fireplace.
     
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  6. ICE

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    Hello Mr. Timler,
    I noticed the glass doors on the fireplace. Here is a post that may be of interest to you. mtlogcabin is the member to look for.

    As to the electrical panel in the cabinet....well stuff happens. It's certainly not the best place for it. I can't imagine the owner being willing to move it for you. But who knows. Discovering something like that makes one question the rest of the electrical work.
     
  7. ICE

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    Not even. There's no disconnect and romex can't be exposed.
     
  8. Builder Bob

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    I figured it was up north with a black bear making coffee or cooking in the kitchen.
     
  9. cda

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    Darn modern codes
     
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    I had to back up for a moment, so you haven't bought it yet?
    Is the price right, have you had it inspected?
    Buying as is or will the seller negotiate or fix the non-compliant issues?
     
  11. James T Timler

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    We are just in the early stages. I was asked by a friend if I would like to look at it so I did. I really like the location and want to make this work. I believe we are in a "as is" scenario and I have not had an inspection done yet.
     
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    My 2 cents ... as-is is ok for worn carpet, cracked window glass, antique toilets. Serious stuff like the electrical panel fall into “must correct”.
     
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    Thanks, I believe I am going to have an general inspection and an electrical inspection. I will get a quote to fully understand what we are looking at. Thanks again and I really appreciate your advice
     
  14. cda

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    Is this your first house you have bought??
     
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    I have one word to describe the panel location:

    Kindling
     
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    Is the romex can't be exposed in a home a CA thing?
     
  18. ICE

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    This is from the CEC:

    334.15 Exposed Work. In exposed work, except as provided in 300.11(A), cable shall be installed as specified in 334.15(A) through (C).

    (A) To Follow Surface. Cable shall closely follow the surface of the building finish or of running boards.

    (B) Protection from Physical Damage. Cable shall be protected from physical damage where necessary by rigid metal
    conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC conduit, Type RTRC marked with the
    suffix-XW, or other approved means.


    While I can't speak for all of California, my AHJ has determined that if the cable is exposed it is subject to physical damage.
     
  19. Norcal

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    Is there a disconnect at the meter? Or is it in the panel in the cabinet? The reason for the questions is to get a idea how long the unprotected service conductors are beyond the meter, if applicable.
     
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