A bit alarmist there....It can be a serious problem. Did they cut a hole in the middle web? Or cut th3 top or bottom flange? Cutting the flange can render the joist completely useless. Only solution is to engage an engineer to evaluate and recommend a fix. If the house us still under construction, have them replace it.
Maybe.A bit alarmist there....
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Not an alarmist at all. The joist may be worthless.
If there is any violation of code which is not resolved by making it comply with the code then an engineer or architect must be involved with designing the fix. The joist manufacturer does not have the authority to modify the code by issuing a recommendation. While such a recommendation may be interesting and suggest a solution the code does not give the manufacturer the ability to redefine the code.
Any building department that does not have an engineer on staff capable of evaluating a fix needs to hire an engineer as a consultant.
Plumbers are notorious for cutting wood members in such a way as to make them useless. On one project the contractor had a rule that the plumber or electrician was not allowed to have a chain saw on the job site. This says a lot about the prevalence of these problems.
If the manufacturer is commin up with specifications, the problem must be rampant, it is a shame that tradesmen think nothing of cutting up the structure of a building
What code violation has been made; I am not aware of a code section that relates to engineered lumber requiring a engineer for every fix? If you want to be grounded in the code, then here is what the code actually provides:If there is any violation of code which is not resolved by making it comply with the code then an engineer or architect must be involved with designing the fix. The joist manufacturer does not have the authority to modify the code by issuing a recommendation. While such a recommendation may be interesting and suggest a solution the code does not give the manufacturer the ability to redefine the code.
Any building department that does not have an engineer on staff capable of evaluating a fix needs to hire an engineer as a consultant.
Sorry, I disagree, but it might be semantics. The mfgr clearly shows allowable knockout in the joists, where the contractor can freely make penetrations without impacting the design capabilities of the joist. If the contractor should cut the joist outside of those allowances, the joist is compromised. The mfgr has recognized the volume of noncompliant cuts has has preemptively published a document with vary narrow instructions for field repairs. The mfgr does not permit cutting of the flanges, but if the cut meets certain parameters they have a ready solution.are prohibited except where permitted by the manufacturer's recommendations
." But the code says the exact opposite as highlighted by the red font above.
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I hope this group realizes that we are a country of laws not a country ruled by autocrats and kings. This fact is reflected in our constitution. One of the most important constitutional provisions is that due process be followed. This means that the laws, including building codes, must be adopted following due process and must be approved by an appropriate legislative body.
When the IBC or the IRC contains a provision that appears to give legislative powers to a building official or a private entity, such as a manufacturer, this creates a conflict with the US and I suggest most state constitutions. When there is a conflict between the building code and the constitution this means that the building code provision has been improperly adopted and is thus unenforceable. Are building officials willing to consider the possibility that not every part of the building code is enforceable?
In response to the position that engineers are “…a plague among building departments…” I will point out that in California it is law that the person in a building department making engineering judgements must be a registered engineer or architect.
If a manufacture provides a fix signed by an engineer licensed in the state where the project is located this satisfies the need for a licensed engineer. Still the fix is a change to the construction documents which would require that the architect or engineer who prepared them must consent to the change. This is not something that can be resolved solely between the building official and the manufacturer.
funnyAny building department that does not have an engineer on staff capable of evaluating a fix needs to hire an engineer as a consultant.
Any builder that does not have an engineer on staff capable of evaluating a fix needs to hire an engineer as a consultant.
Took me a moment, but I like it Steveray.Fixed it!
I think that if you sign and seal drawings, you should be the one who drew them and not some apprentice, draftsman or contractor asking you to seal them.