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Stricter ADA laws could be coming for Austin homes

visitability

NOT per Fair Housing

No full access

No Bedroom

Partial Bath access

It is so Grandma can come over for Christmas/Hanukah/kwanza

Or so you can invite that disabled vet on the side of the road home for a meal, your wife will love you for a long time if you do that...
 
mark handler said:
visitabilityNOT per Fair Housing

No full access

No Bedroom

Partial Bath access

It is so Grandma can come over for Christmas/Hanukah/kwanza

Or so you can invite that disabled vet on the side of the road home for a meal, your wife will love you for a long time if you do that...
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No, it's not.

It's actually being done so someone can score political points. It has NOTHING to do with any disabled people.

Brent
 
There goes the split entry plan and daylight basements plans that are so popular around here.

The last article Mark posted does have some merit with the sticks vs carrots approach. My only question is why does somebody else always seem to provide the carrots?

creating incentives (like permit fee offsets and density bonuses to builder/developer)
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If it is a product the public wants or perceives they need then they will purchase it.
 
Totalitarianism is getting so bad in this country that codes have become political, tinged with new age religion, the liberal pathology is so complete that the incessant mantras of wealth redistribution, the public flogging of free enterprise and exaltation of social justice at the cost of individual freedom don't even seem like radical positions any longer. I don't know if anyone has ever done a cost analysis of ADA but the cost to society has to be enormous, a block away is a park, the park was fine but now it is all torn up within many millions of taxpayer money going into making it an "all abilities park". I don't know how the durable goods medical industry ever got suspect classification for the users of their products, nobody ever discriminated against the handicapped, there were no past grievances for redress, now lots of people hate the disabled.
 
Hard to believe this was passed in a Texas community. I would not have been to surprised if it was somewhere in California, Oregon or even Colorado. But Texas, thats crazy.
 
Min&Max said:
Hard to believe this was passed in a Texas community. I would not have been to surprised if it was somewhere in California, Oregon or even Colorado. But Texas, thats crazy.
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Austin has been completely Californicated, they are predicting that with the influx of Californians escaping taxation Texas will be a blue state within 10 years.
 
"I would not have been to surprised if it was somewhere in California, Oregon or even Colorado."

Maybe in the Peoples Republic of Boulder, or it wanna-be younger sister Ft. Collins..........

If I want to get Grandma in, or the homeless vet in my house, I'll figure it out, I'm not going to mandate it for the rest of the jurisdiction...........
 
Hey, whats up with the thought process that Oregon would even consider this? We is the State that amended out the fire sprinkler requirement that all you'all try to required.
 
MASSDRIVER said:
The more I think about this the more ridiculous it becomes. Out right stupidity.

Brent
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You're not supposed to think, just accept the rules from your exalted leaders.
 
As to Califorinacation, builders are required to provide to buyers a Checklist of available "Universal Design" features for ground floor installation that "if requested" they must install (buyers to pay for). Many Cities have gone even farther to mandate installation of features to facilitate accessibility and visitability.
 
Is "visitability" a new politically correct word to go along with the politically correct "disabled" replacing "handicaped"? That's as bad as someone in the disability industry not knowing the difference between "further" and "farther".
 
MASSDRIVER said:
No, it's not. It's actually being done so someone can score political points. It has NOTHING to do with any disabled people.

Brent
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Where did you get the information about political points? Which politicians can you point to that want to make links by the passage of this requirement? Is very obviously is being done for those who are disabled.
 
Msrandell said:
Is very obviously is being done for those who are disabled.
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No it's not, it's being done by those profiteering in the disability industry, the truly disabled are being exploited for the profit of a few.

Today I visited my optometrist's office, on the way in I was confronted by a blue and white sign about 12"x12", it had the wheelchair logo with a big checkmark stating approved by a CASp, just who are these people? Architects with nothing else to do? Who else? Another cottage industry of people exploiting this situation to feather their own nests? How much do they charge the building owners for their "services"? More extortion like the slime-ball attorneys suing innocent businesses.
 
I have been involved with several retirement communities, by preference the majority have been designed and constructed for accessibilty which went beyond the buzz = vistability. So are those retirement communities who made there personal desicion to reside within those locations now discriminating against the working class folks such as millennials who may desire to have a child in that particular school district but can not find a move in ready vistabilitized dwelling other than the retirement community. This should be more than enough of a reason than ever to now spread he word, mandatory vistaility for all. One class of folk can not be superior.....
 
Keystone said:
I have been involved with several retirement communities, by preference the majority have been designed and constructed for accessibilty which went beyond the buzz = vistability. So are those retirement communities who made there personal desicion to reside within those locations now discriminating against the working class folks such as millennials who may desire to have a child in that particular school district but can not find a move in ready vistabilitized dwelling other than the retirement community. This should be more than enough of a reason than ever to now spread he word, mandatory vistaility for all. One class of folk can not be superior.....
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What?

Brent.
 
"What", that is exactly right. The complete absurdity of a municipal entity mandating vistability requirements for all beit the baby step of grade to the front door toward complete accessibilty within the eye of the future. This municipal requirement is just as absurd as my above statement...
 
Conarb, please take your head out of the stand. The CASp program (Certified Access Specialist program) has been around since 2003 when a Sheila Kuhel bill was passed creating it. The first certifications were made in 2008, in excess of 500 are presently certified since the first class of 27. Go to the DSA website and read of what you know not.

Then get back to us.
 
$1,600.00 just to become licensed by the state, and now over 500 certified individuals I think pretty much verifies CASp is a cottage industry that is going to continue to grow.

How do I obtain certification?

The certification process starts with submitting an application to the program together with a required non-refundable fee of $500.00. After successful application into the program, the applicant can then register for an examination, along with an additional non-refundable registration fee of $800.00. Upon successful completion and passing of the CASp examination, together with payment of a non-refundable certification fee of $300.00, you will receive CASp certification confirming competency as a Certified Access Specialist. Your name will then be added to the published list of Certified Access Specialists posted on DSA's website.
 
ADAguy said:
Conarb, please take your head out of the stand. The CASp program (Certified Access Specialist program) has been around since 2003 when a Sheila Kuhel bill was passed creating it. The first certifications were made in 2008, in excess of 500 are presently certified since the first class of 27. Go to the DSA website and read of what you know not.Then get back to us.
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Nice tone.

And defensive to boot.

Conarb has probably built more structures than you have read about in books.

Brent.
 
mtlogcabin;

every CA Jurisdiction must have a Certified Access Specialist, on staff or on retainer. Many CASps do not do any work other than for their Jurisdiction.

The intent was to make sure all jurisdictions were properly enforcing the codes, many plancheckers and inspectors were letting thing go, which became legal issues. And the second intent was to assist the public in the access/legal morass.

The state fee was estamated, with the intent to be self funded
 
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