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What I find odd about this is that it happened within a day or two of the post just before it. The discussion was about violating a listing by drilling holes and then this contractor hit one out of the park.
 
ICE said:
Technically, the listing of the 3R enclosure has been voided. I say technically because if you ask Schneider Electric for a letter they will tell you that the manufacturer provided a sufficient number of knockouts and drilling/punching holes voids the 3R listing. If you just ask Schneider for an opinion without a letter you get a different answer. As long as the 3R feature is maintained with rain-tight entries they are forgiven the fact that it voids a listing.

The label pretty much says that. It states that load conductors are not to exit through the endwall. There's no knockouts in the endwall....so if the issue were that only knockouts are allowed to be used and drilling/punching holes is outlawed it would not need to mention the endwall. Since it does mention the endwall where there is no knockouts but not the sidewall where there is a ko one could extrapolate his way into drilling the sidewall with abandon.
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If the entries are above live parts, hubs, sealing locknuts, or other means, must be used to prevent the entry of water into the enclosure, and those punched holes are above live parts.

What has me wondering is what was done with the service entrance conductors in the last photos? Looks like a UG only panel, normally power companies do not like them in LB's. & they sure went crazy with the gutters. :D Without photos with the covers off it is hard to tell what they were up to.
 
Open KO's always annoy me because it's a invite for rodents to take up residence & cause carnage, by doing what they do best, chewing, peeing, & pooping, all over everything.
 
Norcal said:
What has me wondering is what was done with the service entrance conductors in the last photos? Looks like a UG only panel, normally power companies do not like them in LB's. & they sure went crazy with the gutters. :D Without photos with the covers off it is hard to tell what they were up to.
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The damage is in the section just below the meter. The service lateral comes in at the section just to the left.
 
Any clown who does this, should be tarred and feathered themselves! Friggen hacks, won't even begin to call them a "tradesperson".

If this was my roof, I would get a professional roofer in there, get it fixed right, and deduct it from the bill for the service work. Settle it in small claims court.

Mechanical people are just as bad sometimes.

EDIT: I went back, I see this is tied to the thread above, where they butchered the enclosure also.......go figure.
 
Am i seeing that right? The copper wires that come up through the middle knockout ... twist around ... but aren’t attached to anything.
 
e hilton said:
Am i seeing that right? The copper wires that come up through the middle knockout ... twist around ... but aren’t attached to anything.
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I see the same thing, to add to it there is a spot on the bar to accept it without the need for any accessories.
 
e hilton said:
Am i seeing that right? The copper wires that come up through the middle knockout ... twist around ... but aren’t attached to anything.
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Yes that was done that way. Notice the cable entering the back of the panel. I haven't done an inspection yet and don't have enough pictures to know, but I suspect that the panel is surface mounted and the cable out the back is a deal breaker. So when it is redone there should be a better outcome with the grounding.
 
The job is a service panel upgrade. The picture was provided to demonstrate that a jumper was installed at the water heater from cold to hot to gas. When there armored wire one might assume that they are relatively new at this type of work. I know that making assumptions is not appropriate so I just assume that nobody ever knows what they are doing.

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The project is tesla two storage batteries. All of the load that was fed from the main panel has been moved to a 200amp selected load panel. They have installed a 175 amp breaker in the main that goes through a gateway to power the selected load. The main panel label limits the maximum permitted breaker to 100amps.

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To add, what about wire bending space too? For that size cable 4" would be required, they are trying to stuff 10 pounds of manure in a 5 pound bag.
 
The inspection was for the furnace replacement. The water heater was installed sometime in the past without benefit of a permit. The vent is a correction. The contractor pointed out that the venting was existing.....like I didn't know that.


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Did you gig em for a flex GAS line without a tag or is that not required or enforced anymore?

Even double wall requires a 1-inch clearance, not sure what's going on at the ceiling?
 
e hilton said:
Can you reject the furnace installation because the vent is not connected to a proper vent stack?
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It depends on which manager gets the contractor's complaint....that's if the contractor complains. Some managers will forgive all manner of deficiency as long as it was there before the contractor got there. Other managers know a situation when they see one.
 
May not be a CA requirement?

2018 IFGC 401.9 shall bear the identification of the manufacture.

411.1 (4) listed and labeled appliance connectors

I guess if the CSST appliance connector has this ANSI Z21.24/CGA 6.10 stamped on it somewhere, you can approve?

Just didn't see the tag in the pic that has a lot of information on it in regards to installation and certification.
 
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