what about the can of deodorant spray, I suppose that can't be on the lid either...Nuts!
The controls on the can would have to comply with ADA controls requirements........HAH !
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Paper Towel Dispenser in WC Clear Space?
- Thread starter Mech
- Start date
ADAguy
Registered User
Not if you install a Toto, ever try one? "Whoopee"!
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
It doesn't matter how far from the wall. It looks to me that the items in section 604.3.2 could be anywhere in the required WC clearance.
ADAguy
Registered User
If in the clear floor area, then how could it not be a barrier? Maybe if he posted a floor plan?
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
What I am talking about is that there is a shelving unit that is 36" long against the wall and comes out 30" from the wall, is 6' high, 5 shelfs, lowest shelf is 3" from the floor. I am sure many of you have this type of shelf unit in your garages or basements. It is between the toilet and the sink. They are keeping supplies for the toilet room on it.
ADAguy
Registered User
30"! it extends beyond the face of the lav? and obstructs access to the toilet lever.
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
Toilet has a automatic flusher. The problem is the code allows shelving in the water closet clear space but has no limit in how large or where it is. They could even put shelving between the toilet and wall. When I fail inspection I am required to state a code section and there is nothing I can use for this.
my250r11
Sawhorse
Have to slouch to use it? Picture would be helpful. Even if automatic it still has the push button that needs to be accessible.
mark handler
SAWHORSE
ICC A117.1
604.3.3 Clearance Overlap. The required clearance around the water closet shall be permitted to overlap the water closet, associated grab bars, paper dispensers, sanitary napkin receptacles, coat hooks, shelves, accessible routes, clear floor space at other fixtures and the turning space.
No other fixtures or obstructions shall be within the required water closet clearance
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
That is what I am saying. There is no limit on how much the shelves take up of if they need to be mounted to the wall.
mark handler
SAWHORSE
I posted that because Rick18071 needed a cite number to use.
Paul Sweet
Sawhorse
Would 609.3 (projecting objects above & below grab bars) help? The rear grab bar is supposed to extend beyond the edge of the toilet (604.5.2).
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
This shelf unit has a supports on all 4 corners so it has no projections and it is not above or below the rear grab bar, it's in front of it.
Paul Sweet
Sawhorse
If it blocks part of the grab bar then it's an obstruction and an ADA violation.
mark handler
SAWHORSE
...in front of it?
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Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
I don't enforce ADA only the ICC codes allows shelfs in the water closet clearance and there is nothing that says shelfs can't be in front of the grab bars.