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An average day

Discussion in 'Contractor Talk' started by ICE, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. ICE

    ICE Moderator

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    The job is a 400 amp residential service upgrade. The contractor knows that we require a bonding jumper between the cold, hot and gas pipes at the water heater....so he did this:

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  2. ICE

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    Looks ugly but it's through an overhang and there's no getting the shingles apart.

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    They called for the final and left this undone. I suppose they plan on making a mess and thought I would turn a blind eye.

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  3. ICE

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    Pool contractor placed an aluminum pole for a mesh fence too close to the water. About 20 times. So he installed lugs and a solid #8 wire. The contractor was told to consult with the inspector prior to doing anything. He didn't do that. I haven't seen a closeup view, but I suspect that the lugs are not listed for outdoor use and most likely do not mate up with the pole. Oh well, it's not my job to inspect so I won't be dealing with the contractor.

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  4. ICE

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    You know how some jobs seem familiar....... I think I might have seen this before.

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    This is on the same panel:

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  5. ICE

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    Enjoying the world of virtual inspections. The job is solar and a service upgrade. They send good pictures.

    I was curious about the individual wires making it into the panel and the three KO plugs caught my attention.

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  6. ICE

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    The plan is to convert this panel from a main panel to a sub-panel, hence the conduit with the fat wire to the 100 amp back-fed breakers. The contractor can't seem to understand why the inspector turned it down. His lament that it is existing and therefor off limits speaks volumes about the contractor.

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  7. steveray

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    Is it the rotten enclosure or that the backfed breaker isn't fastened or the re-identified green wire?
     
  8. ICE

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    There were corrections. Even with no corrections this contractor had no problem trying to use a rotten enclosure.
     
  9. ICE

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    This so looks wrong yet they do it anyway.

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    This is another bad habit. The attachment plug has been removed from the cord for the condensate pump. The cord enters the furnace via a cable connector and gets power from inside the furnace.

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    Of course I got the, "We have never been written up for this before." The company is large....large enough that I have written the same corrections dozens of times. Many dozens.
     
  10. Norcal

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    How can a panel with a permanently bonded neutral be converted to a subpanel? That is a question to be asked, plus the corrosion means a no go to me.
     
  11. Norcal

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    The concrete looks new, plus it looks like they poured it directly against the siding. The EMT looks much better then the armored ground normally used.
     
  12. e hilton

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    This so looks wrong yet they do it anyway.
    Is it actually wrong, or does it just look wrong?

    Condensate pump ... do you require a shut down float switch in case the pump fails?
     
  13. ICE

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    It’s single wall vent stuffed into double wall vent and secured with screws.

    The secondary condensate drain has a float switch.
     
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    The float switch will turn on the pump when condensate fill the reservoir. My question was ... if the pump fails is there anything to shut down the system? Or maybe I’m not clear on your answer.
     
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    2018 IMC
    307.3 Condensate pumps.
    Condensate pumps located in uninhabitable spaces, such as attics and crawl spaces, shall be connected to the appliance or equipment served such that when the pump fails, the appliance or equipment will be prevented from operating. Pumps shall be installed in accordance with the manufacturers’ instructions.
     
  16. ICE

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    This is how screws cut through insulation.

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  17. ICE

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    Had they measured to the correct point there would be just under or over 60". But I don't measure from the wall so they lose six inches.

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    “Yes ma’am we have the lowest prices in town for solar systems, but the change orders are going to be whoppers”.
     
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    Isn't the meter box considered an outlet?

    2014 NEC 680.22 (D) other outlets shall not be less then 10' from the inside walls of the pool
     
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    I think that would be a stretch for outlet...
     

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