RJJ
Co-Founder
Sorry I will have to miss the party! Due to some tax issues and my youngest in college I just don't think I should blow the money. Besides I have just taken on some new work that will have me real busy over the next month. If it works out maybe longer.
JP give out cards to who ever you come in contact with.
That being said let me address a few things! First this BB will continue and should grow in time. This has been stated before by me, and, Jeff and I talk often. We both feel the same. UB is right Jeff is footing the bill and he knows I am hear if it becomes a problem. Which I believe it will not be one. If Jeff decides at anytime he wants out, between Jeff and myself, we will make sure that this remains an open forum without any agenda other then a place to exchange ideas,code issues and create a refuges for people seeking answers to code questions.
Jeff can pipe in at anytime! We both feel the same and we want and need the interaction with other code people, including, but not limited to DP's and engineers etc. If I were to guess, at least a 100 time I have post a ? regarding something I perhaps knew the answer to on the old and new BB. The response was almost always correct answers or new information. People willing to help or show direction or perhaps a fresh vantage point. WOW! That is America at its finest. This little piece of cyber world is undoubtedly terrific. Besides some of you have become friends others have become a face to a screen name. Each has improved my life and ability to do my job better. I have no reason to say these things other then it is the truth. There is no finical gain, so no spin is needed we have a great group and ICC is watching something they lost so in one aspect we threaten them.
Several months back I posted on ICC site for Dominic to come on an discuss some of the issues. No response or acknowledgement. Maybe no brass! (or) Because it would be an environment not in their control. The script here is in constant flux! Facts talk and BS walks!
My gut feeling is that the meeting with ICC will produce nothing. They blew smoke in Baltimore and I see nothing that has changed. The back bone of this group is a thorn under the saddle. They turned the lights out in an attempt to silence the critical discussions regarding the ICC group and surrounding elements on thier own BB. There are a few things all should understand and if you go as a group need to be on common ground.
First, ICC is facing declining importance. Money and budgets are tight. They sell tests and books. The demand just isn't there. The last code hearing I view the hall was empty most of the time. In Baltimore and Twin City other then the sprinkler vote the place at times was a ghost town. Sometimes as few a s 40 or 50 people in the room voting on things that affect the hole country. In Baltimore the hearing was shut down for fire code violation. Is this a joke! Who is in charge. Next, there was no provision for compliance with ADA. What are we selling just a bunch of crap. Is this a professional out fit I want to identify with? I think not!
SO I will get off the box! Its late and I have a lot more to say, maybe I will have time tomorrow.
JP give out cards to who ever you come in contact with.
That being said let me address a few things! First this BB will continue and should grow in time. This has been stated before by me, and, Jeff and I talk often. We both feel the same. UB is right Jeff is footing the bill and he knows I am hear if it becomes a problem. Which I believe it will not be one. If Jeff decides at anytime he wants out, between Jeff and myself, we will make sure that this remains an open forum without any agenda other then a place to exchange ideas,code issues and create a refuges for people seeking answers to code questions.
Jeff can pipe in at anytime! We both feel the same and we want and need the interaction with other code people, including, but not limited to DP's and engineers etc. If I were to guess, at least a 100 time I have post a ? regarding something I perhaps knew the answer to on the old and new BB. The response was almost always correct answers or new information. People willing to help or show direction or perhaps a fresh vantage point. WOW! That is America at its finest. This little piece of cyber world is undoubtedly terrific. Besides some of you have become friends others have become a face to a screen name. Each has improved my life and ability to do my job better. I have no reason to say these things other then it is the truth. There is no finical gain, so no spin is needed we have a great group and ICC is watching something they lost so in one aspect we threaten them.
Several months back I posted on ICC site for Dominic to come on an discuss some of the issues. No response or acknowledgement. Maybe no brass! (or) Because it would be an environment not in their control. The script here is in constant flux! Facts talk and BS walks!
My gut feeling is that the meeting with ICC will produce nothing. They blew smoke in Baltimore and I see nothing that has changed. The back bone of this group is a thorn under the saddle. They turned the lights out in an attempt to silence the critical discussions regarding the ICC group and surrounding elements on thier own BB. There are a few things all should understand and if you go as a group need to be on common ground.
First, ICC is facing declining importance. Money and budgets are tight. They sell tests and books. The demand just isn't there. The last code hearing I view the hall was empty most of the time. In Baltimore and Twin City other then the sprinkler vote the place at times was a ghost town. Sometimes as few a s 40 or 50 people in the room voting on things that affect the hole country. In Baltimore the hearing was shut down for fire code violation. Is this a joke! Who is in charge. Next, there was no provision for compliance with ADA. What are we selling just a bunch of crap. Is this a professional out fit I want to identify with? I think not!
SO I will get off the box! Its late and I have a lot more to say, maybe I will have time tomorrow.